02-26-2017, 02:22 PM | #1 |
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At what point is a BAP required?
Hey guys, I'm just putting a list of parts together and I've been searching this with no definitive answer. Here's my mod list
Rotofab CAI 2.55" upper , ported inlet SLP 1 3/4" long tubes, catless Colder plugs, 160 tstat Id850''s Afco HX, rotofab IC reservoir 10.4mm wires And once I get the injectors I will be getting a custom tune. Will I need a BAP? I don't plan on doing anymore mods than these, not a cam or anything. Will I be OK without a BAP ? Thanks guys
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02-26-2017, 03:55 PM | #2 |
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There are different opinions about the exact point that a BAP is needed but with those mods I would say no. Most people agree that it's needed somewhere around a cam and 28% overdrive or 31% overdrive and stock cam and you will be at 18%
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02-26-2017, 11:21 PM | #3 |
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You need a BAP if your fuel pressure is falling. Check fuel pressure at WOT all the way to redline. If it doesn't hold 65 psi then you need a BAP.
Don't depend on anyone's advice on a forum. Check your fuel pressure.
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02-27-2017, 05:41 AM | #4 |
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Can u plz explain more about this method? As I'm planning to a add a BAP to my build but shops have different opinions about this.
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02-27-2017, 07:03 AM | #5 |
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I think what Bryan is saying is you need to monitor your fuel pressure during WOT so you can determine if your fuel pressure is dropping below 65 psi. You'll need a gauge or tuner to monitor/record.
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02-27-2017, 07:50 AM | #6 |
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Yep, you can log fuel pressure with HPTuners or another scan tool. Or get a fuel pressure gauge and duct tape it to the windshield at see what happens when you get close to redline. Safest way would be to watch it on a dyno.
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02-27-2017, 08:06 AM | #7 | |
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Quote:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289332
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02-27-2017, 09:32 AM | #8 |
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Bryan is correct. The only way to know is by logging fuel pressure with a scan tool. FWIW mine was fine until I went over 628 rwhp. Once again, you need to monitor fuel pressure, but that is when I started having the issue.
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02-27-2017, 10:14 AM | #9 |
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If you do find you need a bap, I am in Ontario as well and I have a Kenne Bell I used for 3 months that will be coming off. It will save you some money buying from the states
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02-27-2017, 12:40 PM | #10 | |
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Thanks for all the info guys!
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02-27-2017, 01:49 PM | #11 |
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The JMS unit is plug N play. It's what I use. It uses an inline harness for your throttle pedal. Simply run the wiring under the carpet to the trunk. I mounted mine in the battery area. You can set it to activate at whatever throttle pedal voltage you like.
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One of the shops here in UAE recommended that I buy one, the other shop said no way that u will need it and if u end up installing one it will damage my fuel pump in the futur , what do u think? Have u heard of such a failing fuel pump due to using BAP? |
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