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Old 07-14-2017, 08:40 PM   #1
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Comparison SS, ZL1 if possible

So the SS Camaro has it's own 1LE like the ZL1 has it's ILE right? If so are they different only in power, disregarding price?
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:41 PM   #2
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They're completely different trim levels. 1LE is only an add-on package to that trim level. Lot of differences.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:45 AM   #3
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While both 1LE models only come in a 6 speed, the ZL1 version is much more extreme in suspension and aero.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:09 AM   #4
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So the SS version (1LE) has no suspension upgrades just looks mostly, right?
And if it had suspension upgrades above an SS, it's not even close to a ZL1 base let alone a ZL1 1LE, right?
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:16 AM   #5
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Standard ZL1 and SS 1LE suspensions are very similar. Most components are identical with the unknown being spring rates on the ZL1. It has a heavier power plant so logical thinking says its spring rates may be higher (not confirmed that I know of). The ZL1 1LE has suspension very similar to the Gen5 Z28. In essence, the regular ZL1 and the SS 1LE are close to, if not identical from a suspension perspective. The ZL1 1LE is a completely different animal.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:21 AM   #6
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The 1LE on the SS is only available on the SS. So some options will not be available. On the ZL1, the 1LE has all the options except for the sunroof and A10. So there is a bit of a difference between getting the SS with 1LE vs getting the ZL1 with 1LE.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:33 AM   #7
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The 1LE on the SS is only available on the SS. So some options will not be available. On the ZL1, the 1LE has all the options except for the sunroof and A10. So there is a bit of a difference between getting the SS with 1LE vs getting the ZL1 with 1LE.
Oh this is true. The ZL1 1LE has coilovers in front. One day both will hit the track to see if the upgrade to ZL1 1LE is significant beyond the ZL1 base (hard to keep up with that A10 I bet). But on 'The Ring' the aero bits on the 1LE may be a factor on the straits.
I like that the SS 1LE is very close to the base ZL1 suspension. It's kind of like a Camaro C7 GS mixture. I'll take the HP always first though.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:48 AM   #8
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Oh this is true. The ZL1 1LE has coilovers in front. One day both will hit the track to see if the upgrade to ZL1 1LE is significant beyond the ZL1 base (hard to keep up with that A10 I bet). But on 'The Ring' the aero bits on the 1LE may be a factor on the straits.
I like that the SS 1LE is very close to the base ZL1 suspension. It's kind of like a Camaro C7 GS mixture. I'll take the HP always first though.
Yeah I could never never go back to 450 horses from 650. Never.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:09 AM   #9
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Oh this is true. The ZL1 1LE has coilovers in front. One day both will hit the track to see if the upgrade to ZL1 1LE is significant beyond the ZL1 base (hard to keep up with that A10 I bet). But on 'The Ring' the aero bits on the 1LE may be a factor on the straits.
I like that the SS 1LE is very close to the base ZL1 suspension. It's kind of like a Camaro C7 GS mixture. I'll take the HP always first though.
That's a good way to look at it. I've always thought of the GS as the car to buy and build if you want the most performance for the dollar. My last car was a GS that made around 700 Hp (620 WHP). I called it my "poor man's ZR1". I feel the SS 1LE is a similar platform that is just waiting to be exploited.

Modifying cars isn't for everyone, but it's an awesome option for someone capable of doing their own work/tuning. I still can't decide whether I want to build my own "poor man's ZL1", or get a real one. I know I won't be disappointed either way. It'll probably come down to how prices look in the Fall.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:21 AM   #10
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Yeah I could never never go back to 450 horses from 650. Never.
I would. If the car weighs 3000 lbs.
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