The End of the Manual Transmission? - Page 13 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

zebra · 12-09-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IRPQ

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There are times when I would like to change but only because it's fun to do it. But 10 years of driving 18 wheelers and 20 years of driving manual cars couldn't sway me from wanting the remote start.

psh... remote start is just a wiring job away

ScientistMartin · 12-09-2011, 01:51 PM

Does anyone have a remote starter for their manual?

SSBUSDRVR · 12-09-2011, 02:02 PM

Since don't drag race here, the only reason that personally would switch from a manual here would be if someday GM would offer an M type Dual Clutch Transmission. Also at a much lower price than what in costs in an M Car ($2500 and up) best of both worlds imho.

S3XPanther · 12-09-2011, 02:11 PM

I think that for the most part manual's will be phased out. As far as sports cars, very few are still manuals these days.

PQ · 12-09-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra

i'll miss them dearly & will possibly stop driving.

By then you can have a newb airman drive you around. LOL

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don't forget... people have knees & elbows, too

But I did spill my share of a full cup of coffee. hahaha

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Originally Posted by zebra

but get a worthwhile cam & try changing a torque converter. i'll take a clutch. and a stronger clutch don't drop your gas mileage to poop like a looser stall will.

Enough of your logic.

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and i grew up in a trailer

(I did too)

In Oklahoma no less. hahaha

But, do you typically ask people at random if their car is a stick?

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Originally Posted by zebra

as for traffic... meh, it's just a convenience. at least with a stick, you don't usually have to constantly sit on the brake.

One finger push up to 'N'

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Originally Posted by zebra

psh... remote start is just a wiring job away

But I didn't want to cut on my new car.

Of course, I did anyway.

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Originally Posted by ScientistMartin

Does anyone have a remote starter for their manual?

Yes. Aftermarket. Not sure how well they work.

zebra · 12-09-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IRPQ

By then you can have a newb airman drive you around. LOL
haha... maybe

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But I did spill my share of a full cup of coffee. hahaha Enough of your logic.

yeah... sucks when you actually start thinking about practicality don't it?

(I did too)

In Oklahoma no less. hahaha

But, do you typically ask people at random if their car is a stick?
One finger push up to 'N'

wait... there are trailers in OK?

i thought the tornadoes wiped them all out in the 50s
and i usually don't ask... but i do either look or wait to see them drive off

But I didn't want to cut on my new car...
horse stuff!

read ^

skipinminn · 12-09-2011, 04:38 PM

When that happens!!!! I'll get in my wheel Chair and head for the Nursing home :( it will be a sad sad DAY. "Automatic Transmission" is like having SEX with a Condom on.

calbert1999 · 12-09-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor626

Let's assume that in the near future there will still be sports cars around (Like the hybrid electric Porsche 918). Some manufacturers, Lamborghini and Ferrari for starters, have done away completely with the manual transmission. For the two mentioned above, however, it's all about speed, and there's no doubt that today's automatics are much quicker in selecting gears than a person could ever be, so it makes sense (to some extent) for them to pursue such a strategy.

Do you think others will follow suite? Do you think GM will ever produce an automatic only Vette

, or do you think they'll have an option for the manual so they can still cater to enthusiasts?

It's a good question since enthusiasts , like those of Lamborghini and Ferrari, will in essence be left out to dry simply because the times are changing.

It's a very relevant question on this site since we're all enthusiasts by the very definition of the word. Therefore, I think some people here are going to have strong opinions on the subject.

Thanks,

Danny.

I don't know what to say about these high end novelty vehicles other than most people with these cars probably never use 50% of their performance capabilities, and probably can't even drive stick anyway. So, perhaps a good move for these overpriced tools.

For the rest of us that aren't simly interested in driving in a straight line to beat a record, I'd say any smart automaker would maintain a manual shifting version of their high performance vehicles.

I would not consider buying a Camaro, or Vette in an automatic because I want to up / downshift using a true stick shift not this manumatic / paddle garbage on eurasian cars.

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Originally Posted by skipinminn

When that happens!!!! I'll get in my wheel Chair and head for the Nursing home :( it will be a sad sad DAY. "Automatic Transmission" is like having SEX with a Condom on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

O2BQIK · 12-09-2011, 05:07 PM

In the US, we've already seen that many passenger cars are no longer offered with a manual transmission. It's only the sporty cars that still offer them. I think that trend will continue, but as long as there are enough buyers who prefer a manual, they will sell them. It's all about the market.

Outside the US, buyers want manuals and dislike autos. So if you ask the question globally, will the manual transmission go away? NO. The US is the only country I know of where the auto is preferred.

bill2129 · 12-09-2011, 05:11 PM

There will be always a option for manual. But Now though when it comes to performance the auto is just as good and will only become better then the manual. The computers are just to good. Soon enough they will be made to out shift any manual by just leaving it in drive with your foot on the floor. I have beating many manual cars with my a4 z28. Most people cant shift good enough to beat my computer. Corvette drivers are a good example. Me and my dad smacked one in our 06 GT. He got off the line like an idiot

S3XPanther · 12-09-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bill2129

There will be always a option for manual. But Now though when it comes to performance the auto is just as good and will only become better then the manual. The computers are just to good. Soon enough they will be made to out shift any manual by just leaving it in drive with your foot on the floor. I have beating many manual cars with my a4 z28. Most people cant shift good enough to beat my computer. Corvette drivers are a good example. Me and my dad smacked one in our 06 GT. He got off the line like an idiot

Where have you been the last 10 years? Auto's already outshift manual's.

PQ · 12-09-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra

read ^

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Originally Posted by skipinminn

When that happens!!!! I'll get in my wheel Chair and head for the Nursing home :( it will be a sad sad DAY. "Automatic Transmission" is like having SEX with a Condom on.

Sex with Eva Mendes with a condom on. I can live with that.

bill2129 · 12-09-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by S3XPanther

Where have you been the last 10 years? Auto's already outshift manual's.

Most manuals will run .1 faster then an auto.

zebra · 12-09-2011, 09:12 PM

there's already a pretty good consensus that an auto is quicker for drag racing. we're talking about everything else now

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SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,748 View My Garage	Since don't drag race here, the only reason that personally would switch from a manual here would be if someday GM would offer an M type Dual Clutch Transmission. Also at a much lower price than what in costs in an M Car ($2500 and up) best of both worlds imho. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

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S3XPanther by Odeon Drives: '12 SS/RS A6 IOM SOLD, '13 1LE IOM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Good question Posts: 1,707	I think that for the most part manual's will be phased out. As far as sports cars, very few are still manuals these days. __________________ "It works 60% of the time, every time." "Some say it's a waste of time, others say it's an incredible waste of time." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." 2013 IOM SS/RS - 1LE. Born 5/6/2013 (1 of 32 1SS IOM 1LE's)

12-09-2011, 05:07 PM	#177
O2BQIK Drives: 1991 Camaro RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas area Posts: 596	In the US, we've already seen that many passenger cars are no longer offered with a manual transmission. It's only the sporty cars that still offer them. I think that trend will continue, but as long as there are enough buyers who prefer a manual, they will sell them. It's all about the market. Outside the US, buyers want manuals and dislike autos. So if you ask the question globally, will the manual transmission go away? NO. The US is the only country I know of where the auto is preferred. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS in black/beige: Sold. \| '91 Camaro RS: Still the dream car! '98 Camaro SS: Incon twin turbo. Sold \| '99 Camaro SS: Heads/cam/bolt-ons. Sold.

12-09-2011, 09:12 PM	#182
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	there's already a pretty good consensus that an auto is quicker for drag racing. we're talking about everything else now __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

12-09-2011, 01:51 PM	#170
ScientistMartin Drives: 2010 Red Camaro 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 73	Does anyone have a remote starter for their manual?

12-09-2011, 04:38 PM	#175
skipinminn Chiquita Drives: 2013 1LE/1SS YELLO1LE 1 of Only 28 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Mpls. Mn./Hudson,Wi. Posts: 4,740 View My Garage	When that happens!!!! I'll get in my wheel Chair and head for the Nursing home :( it will be a sad sad DAY. "Automatic Transmission" is like having SEX with a Condom on.

12-09-2011, 05:11 PM	#178
bill2129 Account Suspended Drives: 2085 Trans AM COBRA Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 676	There will be always a option for manual. But Now though when it comes to performance the auto is just as good and will only become better then the manual. The computers are just to good. Soon enough they will be made to out shift any manual by just leaving it in drive with your foot on the floor. I have beating many manual cars with my a4 z28. Most people cant shift good enough to beat my computer. Corvette drivers are a good example. Me and my dad smacked one in our 06 GT. He got off the line like an idiot