11-06-2021, 08:19 PM | #1 |
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Installed the Pedders Radius Arm Inserts, Feel Like the stockers.
Hi, I installed the PEDDERS-EP6578, I have not driven the car yet but they feel very similar to the ones I took out, i figured they would be stiffer then they are. I did it with the front on ramps, so I am hoping that the ride height is close enough for the bushings to be timed.
I Torqued them to 45 LB with Blue Loctite but I didn't feel it was tight enough so I went to 55 LB, The factory had them on very tight, I have zero rust on the car the bolts looked brand new but they were tight coming off. I did have to loosen the Washer bottle to get the Drivers side out. I am waiting on my Hotckis Brace to come ( Was supposed to be here today) while I have it up then I will try it out.
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11-06-2021, 08:35 PM | #2 |
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I believe they make the most difference under heavy braking, since the radius rod takes on alot of the loading under braking.
55 lb/ft is nowhere enough. I used non factory bolts on my setup and I was torqueing them to 190 lb/ft. I'm at work right now, but I can look up the OE spec from the service manual.
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11-06-2021, 09:01 PM | #3 |
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45 LB is what I found on a google search, If you could please post the GM Spec
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11-06-2021, 09:15 PM | #4 |
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https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552871
This says 37 LB plus 120 Deg https://www.bmrsuspension.com/index.cfm?page=technical BMR Says 45 LB
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11-06-2021, 09:43 PM | #5 |
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Yeah, the BMR specs are way off. I'm night shift right now, I'll look tomorrow.
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11-07-2021, 01:11 AM | #6 |
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I used the Whiteline, and could feel the difference right away.
The inserts not only tighten the up and downward movement, but also tightens up the lateral movement. |
11-07-2021, 12:18 PM | #7 |
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Joe G. got the bolt torque correct, 37 lbs/ft + 150 degrees. So go to 37 lbs/ft and then turn the nut 2 1/2 flats. Each flat is 60 degrees (6 flats on a hex bolt/nut, 360 degrees divided by 6 flats = 60 degrees each flat).
I was wrong in what I was tightening my fasteners, I set mine to 140 lbs/ft. It is worth noting that the OE bolts on the radius rod are not torque-to-yield, which would mean they are single use only. Some think because there is an angle element to the tightening, that automatically makes them torque-to-yields. That is not correct. They are torque-to-angle. It's just how GM wants them tightened and the are reusable. The service manual does not call out replacing the bolts.
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11-07-2021, 04:43 PM | #8 |
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Thank you for getting back to me cdb95z28.
Took the car out today and I think I feel it more in the braking then the steering, I did the Hotckis Chaise Brace today as well and that tightened things up for sure.
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Between street use and track use I've never had a used nut or bolt back off except an OE factory tightened bolt/nut at the rear upper control arm forward vertical mount. I never laid hands on those bolts and I had heard of other guys finding them loose. When I checked mine, they were indeed loose.
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