2016 Ford Shelby GT350 Mustang rated at 526 hp, 429 lb-ft - Page 5

Bhobbs · 06-02-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Splitter

I dont see how his post is negative IMHO.

He has been posting anti Z/28 crap since it was released. He is pretty sensitive about his ZL1.

Red Chief · 06-02-2015, 05:00 PM

They didn't announce weight so it'll probably gain about 200lbs...once you add options you'll probably be looking at more like $60k+...Ford had to go IRS once it got spanked by the ILE...MRC is a feature they stole from GM.

The voices in my head errr...my "sources" tell me the new flatplane V8 has some issues with reliability as well.

--theShill

SuperSound · 06-02-2015, 05:02 PM

It does have a nice flat TQ curve after 3500rpm. Gearing will be essential here.

matt55 · 06-02-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Chill

True, but on the track, ability to hold 3rd and 4th gear to over 8000 rpm will be huge. On the street it's a toss-up. Really depends on the GT350's weight which is still unknown at present.

My guess is the Z/28 will hold its own against the GT350, but the GT350R will be the fastest.

Yep in the meat on the power band for racing the Voodoo is killing it .

Jay Beltran · 06-02-2015, 05:08 PM

C'mon chevy time for that 1LE 2016 im waiting for

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-02-2015, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

It does have a nice flat TQ curve after 3500rpm. Gearing will be essential here.

I agree. A lot is going to hinge on gearing. I think they are doing a special 3160 tranny just for the GT350 twins.

fradaj · 06-02-2015, 05:28 PM

I heard it is hard to get a clear track and be able to set a lap for a good comparison at the Nürburgring. Maybe Mid Ohio or Road America would be better.

fradaj · 06-02-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

That sound though:

Sounds pretty good but I do not like that dark gray with blue stripes.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-02-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by suzook

More cubic inches account for more torque.

Just like the lighter valve train 4 cams 32v= more rpm = more hp per liter.

Different approaches. Different outcomes...

About the sound... Not really that impressive. Been driving around cammed ls cars with true duals my whole life. It sounds ok

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-02-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

If Ford really wont release ring times that's dumb. Even if it doesn't beat the Chevy counterpart I'm sure people (like me) would be interested in the time anyway and what cars it DID edge out.
We'll see about an official side by side. One of us will LOL at the other in the end for sure

I want to be wrong on this one. It would be awesome to see. It would certainly leave the fan boys of one camp or another squaking. Which makes for entertaining reading.

I could only expect a victory for the gt350r vs the old zeta chassis z28. If not at least a dead heat I would say it's somewhat a failure. Only somewhat failure because it's 15k cheaper than a z28...
The true battle will be alpha z28 vs gt350r... Gt500 might carve the corners also and have over 700 hp...

EstebanVerde · 06-02-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

It's on there. https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/

I always wondered why the Z/28 didn't do another few runs in better weather. Even watching the lap video with the rain is really impressive though 160mph with the wipers on lol.

Mark Reuss said in a video (don't remember where) that it had to do with a general agreement between manufacturers about not taping at the ring when unreleased product is testing or something. Said GM wouldn't release times that didn't have video proof. Even though they have posted much better times.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-02-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

And that will never happen. Better or worse, Ford does not publish 'Ring times. Likely because there is no such thing as an "official" 'Ring time. The rain thing with the Z does not matter, as that is the time GM gave us. If they had a better recorded time, they would have shared it, not just calculated it from telemetry data.

Are you really going to try and say the rain didn't slow them down? I understand it is the official time. But if your saying the car couldn't go quicker your crazy...

If you read the literature on it they claim they had run several times that had the potential to be quicker etc. this was their best complete lap caught on video but got screwed with rain at the end. It is hard to get track time to yourself amongst other issues. Getting in quality uninterrupted complete laps can be tough at the ring.
Don't kill the messenger this is just what I've read.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-02-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EstebanVerde

Mark Reuss said in a video (don't remember where) that it had to do with a general agreement between manufacturers about not taping at the ring when unreleased product is testing or something. Said GM wouldn't release times that didn't have video proof. Even though they have posted much better times.

Pretty much

The rain lap was one of their best runs they got on video...

13vertss · 06-02-2015, 06:19 PM

I noticed that the new GT350 hp is rated with 93 octane. Many can only get 91 at the pump, so how much hp loss would there be by going to 91? I know in our cars, going to a lower grade is something you can feel.

06-02-2015, 05:02 PM	#59
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06-02-2015, 05:00 PM	#58
Red Chief Drives: 2020 LT1 Black Join Date: May 2013 Location: MO Posts: 562	They didn't announce weight so it'll probably gain about 200lbs...once you add options you'll probably be looking at more like $60k+...Ford had to go IRS once it got spanked by the ILE...MRC is a feature they stole from GM. The voices in my head errr...my "sources" tell me the new flatplane V8 has some issues with reliability as well. --theShill

06-02-2015, 05:08 PM	#61
Jay Beltran Drives: 2017Camaro 2SS Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: So Cal Posts: 60	C'mon chevy time for that 1LE 2016 im waiting for

06-02-2015, 05:28 PM	#63
fradaj Drives: RS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,037	I heard it is hard to get a clear track and be able to set a lap for a good comparison at the Nürburgring. Maybe Mid Ohio or Road America would be better.

06-02-2015, 06:19 PM	#70
13vertss Drives: 2013 Camaro convertible 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Southern NH Posts: 1,077	I noticed that the new GT350 hp is rated with 93 octane. Many can only get 91 at the pump, so how much hp loss would there be by going to 91? I know in our cars, going to a lower grade is something you can feel.