2018 Mustang to get 10-speed auto? Camaro to follow suit?

Eric SS · 06-20-2016, 05:58 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/20/1...-ford-mustang/

It seems like the 2018 Stang may be getting the 10 speed unit in the F150 and ZL1. I said a while ago that I think the 10 speed unit will be in all auto Camaros in 2018 and I think this makes it even more of a possibility. We know it fits in the Camaro Alpha platform.

NASTY99Z28 · 06-20-2016, 07:11 PM

That'll help close the gap.

IOMike · 06-20-2016, 08:01 PM

I thought I read that it was designed to be the same size as the 6 and 8 speed.

Camaro will probably get it for the MCE, 2019?

crysalis_01 · 06-20-2016, 08:45 PM

That'll be a nice little performance bump for the last two model years of Mustang's gen 6.

ChefBorOzzy · 06-20-2016, 09:10 PM

Maybe it'll pick up a couple tenths in the 1/4.. I'd like to see an engine upgrade for the Mustang.

KMPrenger · 06-20-2016, 09:17 PM

I said it a while ago, but an 8+ speed (we all knew it would be the 10 speed though) would help the auto Mustang a lot in its straight line performance, but I don't believe it will be enough to make the playing field even. That said, I'm betting it will close the gap quite a bit.

But yeah...its only a matter of time before the Camaro SS gets a 10 speed as well. Then the Camaro may pick up another 10th or two and the gap widens again. Mustang will need more power or less weight, or both to catch the Camaro in this generation.

Jeffro19 · 06-20-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Maybe it'll pick up a couple tenths in the 1/4.. I'd like to see an engine upgrade for the Mustang.

I would bet the MY18 mustang will get a power bump.

crysalis_01 · 06-21-2016, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I said it a while ago, but an 8+ speed (we all knew it would be the 10 speed though) would help the auto Mustang a lot in its straight line performance, but I don't believe it will be enough to make the playing field even. That said, I'm betting it will close the gap quite a bit.

But yeah...its only a matter of time before the Camaro SS gets a 10 speed as well. Then the Camaro may pick up another 10th or two and the gap widens again. Mustang will need more power or less weight, or both to catch the Camaro in this generation.

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

I would bet the MY18 mustang will get a power bump.

Perhaps. That's assuming Ford even cares that Mustang is the slower of the two cars. If the sales numbers continue like they have, they may not do anything until gen 7, aka the MY 2020.

This is the "down side" to having the higher selling car, there's little incentive to make substantial improvements.

SS 1LE · 06-21-2016, 07:26 AM

Unless Ford allows automatics in their performance based Mustangs it won't do a thing. GT350 and GT PP are manual only...the regular GT suspension is pretty crappy and IMO the Performance Package is a must have option on that car.

Even if the rest of the Camaros get the 10 speed option it won't really add all that much to the performance as the ratios are pretty similar to the 8 speed. Maybe a tenth or so in the 1/4 mile if it really shifts better than the 8 speed. But, it should definitely add to the MPG's without a doubt...

*Mr. Wyndham* · 06-21-2016, 08:00 AM

We'll see how the calibration is for the Mustang....both companies went there separate ways once the engineering/design of the core hardware was completed.

HumanWiki · 06-21-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

But, it should definitely add to the MPG's without a doubt...

That is why I'm holding out hope that '17 ZL1 w/A10 will not get a GGT and possibly why '17 Z06 is nowhere to be found. They're trying very hard to figure out how to get A10 in there to bypass that GGT and to help with the cooling issues.

IOMike · 06-21-2016, 10:37 AM

A manual 6th gen Camaro is still quite a bit faster than a manual Mustang, so they will need a power bump as well as some handling tweaks to really close the gap. I don't see the GT matching the SS anytime soon. The Bullit or Mach 1 will probably be the Mustang that is on par with the SS.

Jeffro19 · 06-21-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HumanWiki

That is why I'm holding out hope that '17 ZL1 w/A10 will not get a GGT and possibly why '17 Z06 is nowhere to be found. They're trying very hard to figure out how to get A10 in there to bypass that GGT and to help with the cooling issues.

The 2017 corvette playbook is out already

HumanWiki · 06-21-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

The 2017 corvette playbook is out already

I'm aware of that. Doesn't explain the absence and silence around the 2017 Z06.

06-20-2016, 05:58 PM	#1
Eric SS #becauseracecar Drives: 2016 SS Sedan, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,959	2018 Mustang to get 10-speed auto? Camaro to follow suit? http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/20/1...-ford-mustang/ It seems like the 2018 Stang may be getting the 10 speed unit in the F150 and ZL1. I said a while ago that I think the 10 speed unit will be in all auto Camaros in 2018 and I think this makes it even more of a possibility. We know it fits in the Camaro Alpha platform.

06-20-2016, 07:11 PM	#2
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06-20-2016, 08:45 PM	#4
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06-20-2016, 09:17 PM	#6
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	I said it a while ago, but an 8+ speed (we all knew it would be the 10 speed though) would help the auto Mustang a lot in its straight line performance, but I don't believe it will be enough to make the playing field even. That said, I'm betting it will close the gap quite a bit. But yeah...its only a matter of time before the Camaro SS gets a 10 speed as well. Then the Camaro may pick up another 10th or two and the gap widens again. Mustang will need more power or less weight, or both to catch the Camaro in this generation. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

06-21-2016, 08:00 AM	#10
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	We'll see how the calibration is for the Mustang....both companies went there separate ways once the engineering/design of the core hardware was completed. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

06-20-2016, 08:01 PM	#3
IOMike Drives: 2022 F150, 87 Monte Carlo Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: MN Posts: 1,267	I thought I read that it was designed to be the same size as the 6 and 8 speed. Camaro will probably get it for the MCE, 2019?

06-20-2016, 09:10 PM	#5
ChefBorOzzy Drives: 2016 F150 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,196	Maybe it'll pick up a couple tenths in the 1/4.. I'd like to see an engine upgrade for the Mustang.

06-21-2016, 07:26 AM	#9
SS 1LE マスタング = 遅い Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 7,061	Unless Ford allows automatics in their performance based Mustangs it won't do a thing. GT350 and GT PP are manual only...the regular GT suspension is pretty crappy and IMO the Performance Package is a must have option on that car. Even if the rest of the Camaros get the 10 speed option it won't really add all that much to the performance as the ratios are pretty similar to the 8 speed. Maybe a tenth or so in the 1/4 mile if it really shifts better than the 8 speed. But, it should definitely add to the MPG's without a doubt...

06-21-2016, 10:37 AM	#12
IOMike Drives: 2022 F150, 87 Monte Carlo Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: MN Posts: 1,267	A manual 6th gen Camaro is still quite a bit faster than a manual Mustang, so they will need a power bump as well as some handling tweaks to really close the gap. I don't see the GT matching the SS anytime soon. The Bullit or Mach 1 will probably be the Mustang that is on par with the SS.

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