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07-22-2019, 04:47 PM | #6596 |
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Truth. But in this case you get to a point where you’re adding battery volume to haul around battery mass. I think that Escalade EV will likely come from whatever GM is working on wrt a truck EV platform, not T1XX. And that’s gonna take some time. Doubtfully within this architectural cycle. So considering T1XX utilities have yet to launch, you’re looking at 4 - 5 years.
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07-23-2019, 01:01 PM | #6598 |
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I have a hard time seeing batteries coming real soon in FS vehicles, but GM had better step on it if they want to keep up with Ford's electric F150.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/23/2...on-pound-train I don't know how long it will be until the F150 all electric truck hits the market, but if they are teasing it now, wouldn't you think we could see it on the streets in just a year or two? Maybe not...I don't know. As for all electric in general, it seems that GM has that covered, as they have already announced multiple all electric vehicles coming, but I don't recall anything about full size. I just wish instead they had done more with the voltec technology. Seems like a waste.
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07-23-2019, 01:38 PM | #6599 | |
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But beyond that, I think GM screwed themselves over when they decided that they'd just call the Volt an EV instead explaining it. So the EV crowd isn't ignores it because they know its a hybrid, while the average buyer sees it as a $40k Cruze that can only be driven 40 miles at a time. They don't wait around for anyone to explain how its hybrid electric+range extender system works, because they don't care. A way smarter move would have been to embrace its original mission statement: kicking Toyota (Prius) in the teeth. Airing ads along the lines of 'the average Prius driver uses 20 gallons of gas per month. The Volt? 1, sometimes none' or whatever. Focus on the fact that it uses less gas (rather than more electricity), because that has a way broader appeal than touting a tiny electric range. On a tangent to all that, I think GM missed a big opportunity with the Voltec system. It would have been perfect as a 'beta test' for unconventional engine setups. HCCI, or a Wankel, or opposed pistons, or whatever. There are other forms of internal combustion engine besides the normal 4 stroke Otto (or Atkinson) cycle that have certain efficiency or mass benefits, but for one reason or another aren't quite ideal for the average car. The limited operating parameters required of a Voltec generator could mask those drawbacks while maximizing the advantages. And with what was learned from using an HCCI (or whatever) engine in a Volt could be applied to putting that tech into mass market cars.
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Eventually I'd love an electric truck if it has 500+ mile range and battery/charger tech is so good that I could recharge in the same time it takes to fill an HD trunk with fuel today. The torque would be awesome for going up grades.
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07-24-2019, 05:59 PM | #6604 |
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Don't know how accurate it was but someone on Facebook did the math and factoring in the train cars being on rails meant the truck really only had to exert enough force to pull like 1500 pounds or something.
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If they were on a 1/4% downhill slope, they would probably roll on their own without anything pulling them....Why do you think they chock the wheels?....
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Anyway, 1 million pounds is 500 tons. 500 ton x 5 lb/ton = 2500 lb. So 1500 is plausible, though maybe optimistic. I'd guestimate it at 3000 to give myself a little extra margin of error. At any rate, its almost certainly going to be less than 5000 lbs of pulling force required. The max force a truck can pull with is pretty much its own weight, assuming its 4WD (RWD is a lot less, particularly with no tongue weight from the load). For an electric pickup, like Martinjlm was saying for the e-Escalade, you're looking at something weighing around 7000 lbs.
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Silverado Diesel rated at 33MPG. 3 up on Ford, and 6 up on RAM currently.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...-fuel-economy/ I'd say that's pretty big. I'm not typically drawn to the diesel engines, but this one would get a look. That said, the price premium, and the premium cost of fuel would likely still break the deal for me. If diesel was still the same price or cheaper, then it would likely be a no brainer. Avg mpg is 27, which is what...8 - 10 mpg than the average for the 6.2 which you can get for the same price. Its worth noting that on 4x4 models, that hwy rating drops to 29 (that seems like a big drop to me?) which is just 1 better than Ford.
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I just don't get the love for diesels unless your towing/hauling alot.
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