Big Brother Is Watching - Page 3

IndyPaceCar · 10-18-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZPirate

I suggest calling OnStar and opting out of the reporting to your insurance company. I don't see why that would be a problem.

Thanks for the suggestion. Will call OnStar and pursue opting out

Anjilslaire · 10-18-2022, 12:59 PM

Let us know how it goes

timesublime · 10-18-2022, 01:07 PM

Yes, please do let us know.

Need4Camaro · 10-18-2022, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FH212

This HAS to be some sort of an infringement of our privacy if this is happening. How is that legal for GM to collect and REPORT that info without our knowledge? This whole idea is wrong and truly disturbing.

Probably is, but from perspective of litigation, they are probably making ALOT more money than they are losing through law suites.

spiG · 10-18-2022, 01:32 PM

After reading this thread I called OnStar myself to verify the dealer never activated it prior to picking it up and thankfully they didn't because I wasn't going to activate OnStar myself. Let us know how it turns out.

IndyPaceCar · 10-18-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyPaceCar

Thanks for the suggestion. Will call OnStar and pursue opting out

Just spoke with OnStar at 1.888.466.7827 . They advised that even though I did not continue with the services after the 30 day free trial expired, that vehicle operation data was still being collected. This was obviously being provided to third parties, like insurance companies. I requested that they cease providing that information immediately, and was told that they will cease doing that, effective today. The person I spoke to did not have English as their first language and the connection was not all that good, so it was not clear to me if they will stop collecting the data, or just stop providing it to others. I suspect the latter. Will be checking again when my insurance policy is up for next renewal.

Thanks to ZPirate, ctrlz, and everybody else for their comments, information, and suggestions.

Good luck to us all !

ZPirate · 10-18-2022, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyPaceCar

Just spoke with OnStar at 1.888.466.7827 . They advised that even though I did not continue with the services after the 30 day free trial expired, that vehicle operation data was still being collected. This was obviously being provided to third parties, like insurance companies. I requested that they cease providing that information immediately, and was told that they will cease doing that, effective today. The person I spoke to did not have English as their first language and the connection was not all that good, so it was not clear to me if they will stop collecting the data, or just stop providing it to others. I suspect the latter. Will be checking again when my insurance policy is up for next renewal.

Thanks to ZPirate, ctrlz, and everybody else for their comments, information, and suggestions.

Good luck to us all !

Great to hear that you got the issue resolved. This was a lesson to all of us.

And thanks to GearheadSS for his information about how OnStar is activated and the ability to opt in or out of providing the information to your insurance carrier.

Jus Cruisin · 10-18-2022, 01:59 PM

Do you have to call or could you opt out using the car's onstar connection?

IndyPaceCar · 10-18-2022, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jus Cruisin

Do you have to call or could you opt out using the car's onstar connection?

Don't know. Didn't try using the car's OnStar connection. I'm guessing that would work too

keep_hope_alive · 10-18-2022, 02:22 PM

I have the State Farm Drive Safe program on three of my vehicles. I get a decent discount on those vehicles. They collect a decent amount of data and I get a google map of the exact route taken and precise location of any events. This new app uses your phone and just a BT tag (does not connect to vehicle). My Accord, Camry and Ranger aren't overly sporty. I also appreciate having the detailed trip reports for my 16 yr old daughter driving my Accord.

I declined adding this to the Camaro. I will call On Star to remove reporting to third parties. I do plan on keeping On Star for convenience.

Jus Cruisin · 10-18-2022, 02:23 PM

My 30 days runs out the end of this month. I'll see if I get Onstar over the air notices in the car.

Mark R · 10-18-2022, 02:27 PM

I just called. I never activated anything, however, the lady said my vehicle has "Connected Access" until 2028. That means the car will interface with the My Chevy App, and transmit Vehicle Diagnostics, which is where the CarFax emails I get are generated from.

Once my son (electrical engineer) looks at the link showing On-Star removal and gives it the thumbs up, I'll ask him to yank that spyware out of the car. Then I'll turn my phone GPS off when I hoon, and I should have some privacy.

SS_Don · 10-18-2022, 02:40 PM

There is a Smart Driver option in the My Chevy app. I just opted out 5 min ago.

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22LT1Camaro · 10-18-2022, 03:08 PM

Creepy company, yikes.

I just called them and asked for them to completely disconnected everything. The customer service rep had to transfer me to technical service to process a "Decline in Service". When I was connected to that department, I asked for that and to remove reporting to third parties.

They said they would completely deactivate the hardware in the vehicle while placed on a 3 to 4 minute hold - a few minutes later they said my account was closed and hardware was deactivated.

I asked what information was sent to a 3rd party, they said mileage and "diagnostic data" (which, I did request - and the entire reason I activated on the account in the first place).

They stated the data was shared with State Farm for "discounts."

They couldn't tell me what specific data was shared, and when I asked for them to provide me a record of me consenting to data being shared, they provided me yet another telephone number to call. I haven't done that yet.

So, TL;DR They were transparent with specifically providing data to STATE FARM. I'm not sure how transparent or informed the rep was regarding what data was shared. Despite sounding foreign, they seemed to take my inquiry rather seriously.

I also looked into opting out of LexisNexis but their web app requires input of a Social Security # - which is even creepier.

MANY MANY THANKS to the OP for sharing this info.

10-18-2022, 01:07 PM	#31
timesublime Drives: Waiting for the 2SS Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: CO Posts: 61	Yes, please do let us know. __________________ 2023 2SS 1LE M6 BCD 1100 6/6/22 3400 2/17/23 TPW 2/17

10-18-2022, 01:32 PM	#33
spiG Drives: 22 1SS 1LE, 20 Ram 1500, 19 SGS Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: NC Posts: 23	After reading this thread I called OnStar myself to verify the dealer never activated it prior to picking it up and thankfully they didn't because I wasn't going to activate OnStar myself. Let us know how it turns out. __________________ 2022 VOM 1SS 1LE M6 2020 Ram 1500 2019 Harley SGS

10-18-2022, 01:59 PM	#36
Jus Cruisin Old Gearhead Drives: 2023 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: MI Posts: 546	Do you have to call or could you opt out using the car's onstar connection? __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 convertible - black - SOLD 2023 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate - black

10-18-2022, 02:22 PM	#38
keep_hope_alive Electrical Engineer Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Illinois Posts: 775	I have the State Farm Drive Safe program on three of my vehicles. I get a decent discount on those vehicles. They collect a decent amount of data and I get a google map of the exact route taken and precise location of any events. This new app uses your phone and just a BT tag (does not connect to vehicle). My Accord, Camry and Ranger aren't overly sporty. I also appreciate having the detailed trip reports for my 16 yr old daughter driving my Accord. I declined adding this to the Camaro. I will call On Star to remove reporting to third parties. I do plan on keeping On Star for convenience. __________________ 2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair. 1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22 . . . . . . . 6000: 9/10/22 Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ April 2024 New Engine @ 22,600 Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116

10-18-2022, 02:23 PM	#39
Jus Cruisin Old Gearhead Drives: 2023 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: MI Posts: 546	My 30 days runs out the end of this month. I'll see if I get Onstar over the air notices in the car. __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 convertible - black - SOLD 2023 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate - black

10-18-2022, 12:59 PM	#30
Anjilslaire Drives: 2021 3LT RS A10 Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: South Sound, Washington Posts: 438	Let us know how it goes

10-18-2022, 02:27 PM	#40
Mark R Drives: 2018 ZL-1 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 948	I just called. I never activated anything, however, the lady said my vehicle has "Connected Access" until 2028. That means the car will interface with the My Chevy App, and transmit Vehicle Diagnostics, which is where the CarFax emails I get are generated from. Once my son (electrical engineer) looks at the link showing On-Star removal and gives it the thumbs up, I'll ask him to yank that spyware out of the car. Then I'll turn my phone GPS off when I hoon, and I should have some privacy.

10-18-2022, 02:40 PM	#41
SS_Don Drives: '22 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,027 View My Garage	There is a Smart Driver option in the My Chevy app. I just opted out 5 min ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ '22 2SS \| Wild Cherry Tintcoat \| Design Package 3 \| NPP \| MRC \| A10 \| NAV \| Ceramic Coating \| Full Frontal PPF \| New Hood and Side Stripes \| Michelin PS AS 4 Range AFM Disabler \| Mishimoto Catch Can \| Diode Dynamics side markers \| Cold Air Inductions CAI \| LLoyd Velourtex front/trunk mats with Camaro SS logo ZL1addons Deluxe Rock Guards, Stealth Lift Pads, and Tow Hook \| Escort MAXcam360c \| Footwell Lighting \| Banks gauges in ZZPerformance pillar pod \| Paddle shifter extensions

10-18-2022, 03:08 PM	#42
22LT1Camaro Drives: 22 LT1 Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: USA Posts: 28	Creepy company, yikes. I just called them and asked for them to completely disconnected everything. The customer service rep had to transfer me to technical service to process a "Decline in Service". When I was connected to that department, I asked for that and to remove reporting to third parties. They said they would completely deactivate the hardware in the vehicle while placed on a 3 to 4 minute hold - a few minutes later they said my account was closed and hardware was deactivated. I asked what information was sent to a 3rd party, they said mileage and "diagnostic data" (which, I did request - and the entire reason I activated on the account in the first place). They stated the data was shared with State Farm for "discounts." They couldn't tell me what specific data was shared, and when I asked for them to provide me a record of me consenting to data being shared, they provided me yet another telephone number to call. I haven't done that yet. So, TL;DR They were transparent with specifically providing data to STATE FARM. I'm not sure how transparent or informed the rep was regarding what data was shared. Despite sounding foreign, they seemed to take my inquiry rather seriously. I also looked into opting out of LexisNexis but their web app requires input of a Social Security # - which is even creepier. MANY MANY THANKS to the OP for sharing this info.