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Old 09-09-2021, 08:05 PM   #43
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File the report. Cops don’t have an easy job, but there’s no reason that behavior should be rewarded. Reports such as yours hurt the officers chance of promotion (if the supervisor is doing their job, they’ll understands this guy is a liability).

As a side story: I had a friend file a report against a State Cop. The cops supervisor called my buddy and asked if he’d take an apology instead of going through with submission. My buddy said no, it’s too late for that. The supervisor informed him that this would hurt the officer for years to come. His response was simple- If the roles were reversed, I would have be fired on the spot, no benefits, retirement, lawyers or union on my side. I can live with my decision.

Even a short clip of your conversation with the cop would go a long way. ***I agree with Ckt227… post it up.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:09 PM   #44
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Yes it has. Wondered what happened to you. Usually people make that goodbye post. I started lurking on Camaro6 now because the other half has a 21 1LE A10 on order, it'll be my car to take care of.

Not exactly my POV by just a different view, kind of playing devil's advocate on the situation.
As far as pulling over not exactly. I've only been stopped twice and hopefully never get stopped again. Once in my old 04 Saturn Ion and once in my Camaro.....both times I was speeding. My Saturn I was trailed for over a mile when supposedly I was already clocked at a speed well above the posted limit. (wasnt going to argue because I was going well over that at a point in time...and I was a scared 18 year old with zero prior contact with LE). This time I was the only car on the road as well. Camaro I got stopped right away. Traffic stops depend on a lot of different factors. The lights thing you described is 1000% normal fyi.......especially in todays day and age.

As stated he may have been trying to establish PC for DUI. Its completely possible that the "redlight" was his PC for a stop and then upon stop making sure you werent a DUI. BUT again..... falsifying PC for a stop isnt ok...... also if thats what he was trying to do he should have had body cam since thats normal in CA.
Yeah, you know, life happens, plus I got rid of my 2014 1LE. It turned out to be a lemon, got my money back from GM, even after 6 years of use. Different story. Anyways, yeah I been here on and off, ever since I got my 20’ 1LE I’ve been here. I see you point, however this was not the case.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:21 PM   #45
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I see 3 problems here:

- Ass**** power tripping cop -> It is very sad indeed, fortunately you have footage to support your complaint or a potential lawsuit (hope you saved it and backed it up a few times already)—if you're considering a lawsuit, I understand why you wouldn't post the video, but otherwise it could be instructive and helpful to others (just my 2 cents')

- Officer's lack of compliance with regulations around LE activity -> Same as above, this is unacceptable for people in position of authority, so you have a clear case here

- Profiling, racial or car type or other -> To me this sounds the most interesting point you brought up, as you drew this conclusion purely based on how you felt. Not saying this invalidates it, I'm just stating a fact.

As I said above, there are power tripping idiots that gravitate towards positions of authority and they will either be a-holes to everyone or "profile" based on their twisted view of the world. That, however, doesn't mean that all "profiling" is bad. There are probabilities based on genuine statistics that need to be considered, which individuals may (will) fall victim to to some extent, but this cannot and should not be eliminated, because that would mean all situations are handled as if they occurred for the very first time, as if there were no learning involved.

Is it "fair"? No, but there is no such thing as "universal fairness". Here's a personal example: my name is practically the same as that of a gay ex-porn star of roughly the same age and the same origin, which means I get mistaken for him, resulting in very awkward situations. I could say "hey, just because this guy has this name and origin, you shouldn't treat me like I'm his clone in the same business and have the same demeanor", but it's just life, I basically have to suck it up. This is only an illustration, I'm not trying to compare apples to oranges here, just illustrate my point.

It's a very complex question, though, I definitely see how people are sensitive to different aspects and I am in no way disrespecting these views, but yet again, the crux of the issue is the power tripping intoxication with authority, not any kind of profiling that is most likely "only" a consequence. I'd be happy to listen to alternative views, though.
I was and still pissed and disturbed by the whole experience, as I never had a police officer pull me over and start making shit up. Usually when I get pulled over its for speeding, at that point I don’t say nothing and just take the ticket. I’m not going to argue with something I know I did wrong, I’m not that type of person.

I know the world is not fair, and I don’t believe I would be treated fairly every time I get pulled over. I get it. However, last time I was pulled over was almost 4 years ago, for speeding. I know I deserve it, however not this last time.

The reason why it’s obvious to me and anyone of color, is because there’s not too many people that look like me in my neighborhood. Let alone drive a shiny Black SS, plus I have a shave head, so yeah, I didn’t see him staring at anyone else at that red light other than the Mex. So yeah, I believe it was racial profiling.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:23 PM   #46
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I absolutely agree with your point that not all cops are bad. But I have to disagree with your assessment - there was no disrespect in the OP's story until after the bogus accusations were stated (again, assuming the OP's version is 100% accurate). At that point, anybody being wrongfully accused is going to react in a similar way. Merely calling it bullshit is not disrespectful.

To the OP, my personal opinion would be to NOT post the video here or any where on social media. You don't have to prove it to any of us in the slightest. Take some time to cool off and then objectively view the video yourself. Show it to some of your more level headed friends or family members to get their take on it. If it's truly the way you told the story and you're confident in it, then file the complaint with the video. If it goes nowhere and you still feel it should be addressed, then maybe share it with a wider audience. Your primary goal here should be in drawing the police department's attention to an issue with an officer. Putting that officer on blast notice with the wider world by posting it online is where things can get out of hand and draw unwanted attention to you, both from upset police officers and people who want to defend the police no matter what.

Again, just my $0.02...
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:25 PM   #47
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had something similar last year. Was pulling out of the gas station and the deputy said I didn't do a complete stop. That was bullsh because the road has traffic in both directions and you just can't roll on out unless you want to get into an accident.

I was driving my 2012 Mustang GT at the time. The cop was WAY down the road too. Me thinks he was simply looking for someone who also drives a Mustang. Remember these cars are 10 years old and can be had for pretty cheap now so kids buy them. I did tell him I had a conceal carry permit but he didn't even ask for it. Being this is FL and not constitutional carry you're required to have a permit so I knew he'd see in the computer I'm armed if I didn't tell him and might been pissed.

Anyway, after a couple minutes he let me off with a written warning. This still pissed me off because I didn't run the stop sign and he gave me a warning which will still show up in the computer which means next time I'm pulled over it's unlikely I will get off with a warning.

I would like a good dash cam too but the Camaro only has one outlet and I run my radar detector. Most of the splitters only have two outlets. I have my GPS as well.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:26 PM   #48
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Sorry you all had bad stuff with cops. Nut most are not just a holes.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:31 PM   #49
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If you have video post it. Then I'll believe your side. Like others have said there are 2 sides to every story. Not saying it didn't happen, just post it. Just this past week I had an unfortunate incident where a guy threatened my wife and I at a Walmart parking lot. When I told him to shut the F up and leave us alone he then threatened to pull me out of my car and F me up. He started toward my window. I reached into my armrest to use my right to stand my ground and he stepped back away from our car and said he was going to call the police. I started to back out of my parking spot and he stood behind my car preventing me from leaving. Walmart guy tells him he can't do that and it is illegal detainment. I get out without deadly force because enough people were there by now. Luckily a girl was videoing and Walmart guy was taking my side as he saw the guy threaten us. Four police cars come and I told them what transpired. Then two more supervisors in two more cars. The guy is still yelling profanities at Walmart employee and girl with video. He tells cop I pointed the gun at him and threatened to shoot him. Neither of which I did. I took it out of the center console and placed it into the center cup holder which the crazy guy saw. As a side note later I thought I should have asked the officer to have him describe the gun which he would not be able to do because it was in the holster when I moved it from console to cup holder. Outside of the car now the cops surrounded him after frisking me and my wife as well as crazy guy. Police view the video and asked if I wanted to press charges but the other guy said if I did he was going to as well. I was 200 miles from home and did not want the cost of travel, lawyer, etc. I declined. So my point is some people lie to get even for something they should not have done in the first place. You just never know without proof.
Wow, that was intense, I hear you. Also, I not trying to convince people to believe me, I just wanted to alert other members, that just like that something wild and out of the ordinary happened to me, well it could happen to anyone, my point was get a dash cam, you never know when you need one.
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OK, then - post your video or it didn't happen.
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We can all come up with stories on both sides of this issue and we can all believe or not believe what we want. At the end of the day, if you have a precinct with 99 awesome and dedicated officers and one dickhead, that one dickhead can do a lot to offset the good will of the other 99. I am not one to believe that 100 officers in any squad room are all dickheads. But I have dealt with enough dickheads to know they are out there, so I don’t doubt the OP’s story, whether he presents video or not. I’ve been in his shoes, so I know it’s possible. But still, most of the cops I know are great guys. Just like in a group of 100 Camaro owners there’s very likely to be a dickhead or two. Hey…stop looking at me.
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Damn man sure hate to hear this. Sadly at one point or another we all run across these type of characters with a badge. On a lighter note, how you liking that new 1LE?
Tanks bro! Man, the new 1LE is way better than my 2014, not that that one was bad,(AC didn’t work), but this one handles better has more power, and a lot more bells and whistles! It ****ing rocks! Thanks
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