[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by mlee

All true but the main reason they are wider is for wider tires which is another difference from the SS 1LE.

I'm also not following those saying the SS 1LE is "basically" the same as the ZL1. The entire drive train is different and the only way the 1LE makes up the difference on any track is the driver mod.

Zl1 front or rear tires are not wider than the ss 1le. That's false, there may be a difference in track width but not tire width. The zl1 1le's tires are wider though.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by mlee

M6 has different gearing in the Z. Even the A10 is upgraded from the A10 in the SS. Rear end beefed up axles with coolers. Not sure about the 6th Gen, but the 5th ZL1s have the engine mounted further back too.

Yes slightly different gearing, still a tr6060 on both. The a10s are different in the zl1 vs The ss, the better10l90 on the zl1 vs 10l80. The ss 1le only comes in manual so when comparing transmission it's m6 to m6, and comparing the a10 is pointless. If m6 isn't suitable then obviously the ss 1le is not a good choice.

The ss 1le also has upgraded axles over the regular ss with a differential cooler as well, they are the same thickness as the zl1 axles but not the same part number. The regular ss also has a diff cooler I believe. The zl1 obviously has more coolers in general as the lt4 produces more heat.

The engine is not mounted any further back on the zl1, that's also false, same mounting. It carries more mass up top from the super charger though obviously.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Zl1 front or rear tires are not wider than the ss 1le. That's false, there may be a difference in track width but not tire width. The zl1 1le's tires are wider though.

My bad... that's true on the tires. I'm thinking 5th Gen again.

[Ichabod]

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM

Except then you still get bored with it eventually and end right back up in the same boat.......

this. I went from an SS 1le to a zl1 1le and in a matter of weeks you get used to the extra horsepower and you're in the same boat.

[Aragorn]

There’s another reason to get the SS. ITS BETTER LOOKING!!
(High doses of subjectivity and bias here)

[mlee]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Yes slightly different gearing, still a tr6060 on both. The a10s are different in the zl1 vs The ss, the better10l90 on the zl1 vs 10l80. The ss 1le only comes in manual so when comparing transmission it's m6 to m6, and comparing the a10 is pointless. If m6 isn't suitable then obviously the ss 1le is not a good choice.

The ss 1le also has upgraded axles over the regular ss with a differential cooler as well, they are the same thickness as the zl1 axles but not the same part number. The regular ss also has a diff cooler I believe. The zl1 obviously has more coolers in general as the lt4 produces more heat.

The engine is not mounted any further back on the zl1, same spot. It carries more mass up top from the super charger though obviously.

It's not that slight and the ZLE even more different. 0-60 in 1st gear completely changes the game in AutoX. I believe you brought up A10 and all I had to compare to is the SS which is what the 1LE is. My bet is it will get the A10 at some point like the rest

Yes the SS has a cooler same as 1LE, but I've never heard the axles were the same as ZL1. Good to know.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by mlee

It's not that slight and the ZLE even more different. 0-60 in 1st gear completely changes the game in AutoX. I believe you brought up A10 and all I had to compare to is the SS which is what the 1LE is. My bet is it will get the A10 at some point like the rest

Yes the SS has a cooler same as 1LE, but I've never heard the axles were the same as ZL1. Good to know.

I didn't bring up the a10, someone else did. I hope the ss 1le never goes auto.

I'm familar with the gearing, its not all that different imo but I guess how big of a difference is subjective. I'm also aware of the zle's gearing difference with 6th gear actually being usable from a performance standpoint. While that tall 1st gear has it's advantages it certainly doesn't help with launching the car. The zl1 gearing isn't all rainbows and sunshine, pretty sure it has a lower top speed than a regular m6 ss because of its shorter 5th gear and the fact that it reaches top speed in 5th. So basically about the same top speed as an SS 1le, just gets there faster lol.

Not the same exact axles, according to those who have played around with them, but same thickness.

[waterman]

Not to mention the beefed up internals on the LT4. As compared o the LT1.

Not hater, just saying.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by waterman

Not to mention the beefed up internals on the LT4. As compared o the LT1.

Not hater, just saying.

Oh yea the lt4 matters for sure. If you're after stock power lt4, if you're going for warranty voiding power lt4 is good up to a 1000 on stock internals.

Lt1 only matters if you prefer NA lol.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

There’s another reason to get the SS. ITS BETTER LOOKING!!
(High doses of subjectivity and bias here)

I agree!!!

Out of all the 6th Gen. Camaro's the SS 1LE IMO looks the most complete and proportioned just right. The ZLE, which looks amazing with the wings and canards, has tires that stick out quite far. The ZL1 has wheels that don't look as good as the SS 1LE.

The SS 1LE is just the Goldilocks of the bunch.

Obviously , this is all subjective though.

[Hollard]

Originally Posted by davecamaro6

Currently have a 2018 1LE w/ 2SS package. At the time of purchase, I thought 455hp would be enough. Drove a ZL1 this weekend.. and now I really want that added power. But not sure if I’m better off just supercharging my current car.

Thoughts? What would you guys do?

What I would do in your situation, I'll probably go with a trade-in upgrade. Especially now with the price range you can find a new or used ZL1.

I decided to supercharge my '17 2ss back in January of this year. Wish I had waited a few more weeks before doing so because when March hit, was able to find new 2018 ZL1s here and there for as low as $56k. It was a search, but they were out there to be found.

[B8TTYVILLEKID]

Originally Posted by Zaqwert6

Slippery slope my friend....


Its real easy to get used to HP, especially on the street. I've got two in the garage currently, one @ 1000hp and another @ around 1800. Ain't done yet....

WOW ! what would those be. 4 digit HP is nothing t sneeze about.

[c4racer]

I have 1400 in the garage.


Of course it takes 3 cars to get there !! Ha

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by davecamaro6

Currently have a 2018 1LE w/ 2SS package. At the time of purchase, I thought 455hp would be enough. Drove a ZL1 this weekend.. and now I really want that added power. But not sure if I’m better off just supercharging my current car.

Thoughts? What would you guys do?

You know what is a lot cheaper???

Go park the SS for 5 days, go rent a 4 cylinder and drive it for 5 days, then get back into your car.

Do this once a month or every other month. It will recalibrate your senses.

We rented a 4WD to go to the snow for a long weekend recently and when I got back in my car after driving that around for 4 days, my car felt like a Porsche.