[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by zain

I definitely know what I am talking about! had a typo with C7 .. of course at that time (2018) .. its only C7 there and nothing else! you are just being emotional

Sounds like you desperately want a Porsche. Go buy one and be done with your nonsense.

[serper3]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Sounds like you desperately want a Porsche. Go buy one and be done with your nonsense.

I am surprised this took so long to come up lol.

The ZLE perfermance is awesome, don't get me wrong, and I know lots of people buy the ZLE because of how well it performs given the price point.

for me personally, I prefer a sporty muscle car, front engine, lots of torque, fun to drive on track, mountain roads, and around town. you have to understand what you are getting into from a chassis limitation perspective. the ZLE isn't going to defy the laws of physics. you have to make sacrifices on all levels, price, ability to increase hp, handling, traction etc. personally for me the ZLE comes out on top!

If it doesnt work for you, great. go buy a porsche. I want one too someday. just not going to sell my ZLE to get one.

The difference in price is very substantial though and for most is prohibitive considering the marginal increase in performance, driving experience, etc.. starting at 161k for the new GT3, but good luck getting an allocation.
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/9...odels/911-gt3/

[Dave777]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Not sure I trust GM to build a reliable high revving Ferrari beater, it's not really their bread and butter. Look at all the engine problems Ford has with the GT350 (although not widely reported)

The LT4 is a solid, proven platform for big power, just needs a reliable oil pump and new blower.

I would only consider a Z06 after it has proven itself for a few years, and even then I'd probably rather have a GT3 (which is reliable)

Maybe GM should have had a dry sump oil system for the ZL1.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Dave777

Maybe GM should have had a dry sump oil system for the ZL1.

No reason for it when they were able to get by with a wet sump. The oil pump issue has nothing to with that, it seems isolated to 2017-2018 models. It's very rare starting in 2019 leading me to believe that they used an improved pump.

[JSH]

OP - Visit H P E and take a look at their ZL1 and supercars in person
https://youtu.be/d49-StpsyNs

[prod]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

GM has built some of the best engines in the world since the beginning of the ICE. I have 100% confidence that they can build a Ferrari beater. They've been doing it on the racetrack for decades. Its not that GM lacks any knowledge, its that their street car platforms have a budget which Ferrari doesn't have. GM has to build the best bang for the buck.

I think the issue is marketing.
The last time I remember GM promoting a specific engine in a campaign was the Quad4 in the early 90's.
Hey, they could always weld a couple of those together for the new Z06.
If ford could do it for Jaguar....

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

No reason for it when they were able to get by with a wet sump.

But it is a little curious why the Gen 5 (LS7) Z28 had it

Bumped into a kid with one this weekend, had the dyno sheet to prove he is making 610 hp to the wheels n/a - impressive

[serper3]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

But it is a little curious why the Gen 5 (LS7) ZL1 had it

Bumped into a kid with one this weekend, had the dyno sheet to prove he is making 610 hp to the wheels n/a - impressive

I think you mean Z28.

Wasn't there some oiling issues with the LS7? Maybe I am mistaken though.

Yea, around 600whp in a c6z is pretty fun for sure, the cars weigh in the low 3k pound range.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

But it is a little curious why the Gen 5 (LS7) ZL1 had it

Bumped into a kid with one this weekend, had the dyno sheet to prove he is making 610 hp to the wheels n/a - impressive

Major dry sump advantage is to lower the center of gravity and to drop the engine lower, you can't have a massive oil pain. Dry sump allows a shallow oil pain. The engineers must have been comfortable with the engine placement with a wet sump since its able to hold 10 quarts.

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by serper3

I think you mean Z28.

Thanks, yes - 5th gen Z28, not C6