FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 511

FenwickHockey65 · 07-23-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

That seems fast. Is that typical?

It's not atypical. K2XX trucks launched for 2014 and received an MCE for 2016.

NW-99SS · 07-23-2020, 03:27 PM

Really hoping the interior is an actual upgrade this time and not a step backwards from the 16-18's like the 19+ trucks are.

KMPrenger · 07-23-2020, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

That seems fast. Is that typical?

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's not atypical. K2XX trucks launched for 2014 and received an MCE for 2016.

Yep...things move fast in full size truck world. Look at the Ford F150 and how many face lifts it has gotten over the past several years.

I rather like the current Sierras. Hope they change is good!

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Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Really hoping the interior is an actual upgrade this time and not a step backwards from the 16-18's like the 19+ trucks are.

From what I understand (unless it got pushed back to 2022 with the facelift) the trucks were supposed to get an updated interior for 2021 models. I'm guessing since the 2021 models are pretty much here and COVID slowing nearly everything down including pushing back other GM MCEs, it will happen for 2022.

shaffe · 07-24-2020, 09:46 AM

What he said ^ full size trucks get little refreshes almost every 2 or 3 years

ssrs2lt · 07-28-2020, 11:02 AM

Watched a video on the 2021 Tahoe. Seems like they stepped up the game.. Air ride etc.. If I only had 78,000 lol

snizzle · 07-28-2020, 11:52 AM

Agree. It's a big step up from previous gen. At least in theory.

NW-99SS · 07-28-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

Agree. It's a big step up from previous gen. At least in theory.

I'm hopeful but not interested in getting rid of my '17 Denali anyway. The only thing I like is the availability of a diesel and the A10.

snizzle · 07-28-2020, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NW-99SS

I'm hopeful but not interested in getting rid of my '17 Denali anyway. The only thing I like is the availability of a diesel and the A10.

I have a feeling they'll offer the diesel for two years, the take rate will be abysmal, and it'll fade off the options list.

NW-99SS · 07-29-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

I have a feeling they'll offer the diesel for two years, the take rate will be abysmal, and it'll fade off the options list.

Initial take rates are high where I'm from - and also on the few social media groups.

Guys that tow want diesels - more torque, less noise, better towing. They will be a hit. Ram hasn't had any trouble selling them in their 1500s.

GearheadSS · 07-29-2020, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Initial take rates are high where I'm from - and also on the few social media groups.

Guys that tow want diesels - more torque, less noise, better towing. They will be a hit. Ram hasn't had any trouble selling them in their 1500s.

It will be interesting to see if the diesel will tow more in the full size SUVs. In the half ton trucks, it tows less than the 5.3 V8. From what I've seen here, the only folks that want the diesel are the ones interested in fuel economy first and towing isn't a priority.

snizzle · 07-29-2020, 09:07 AM

Hope you're right.

I did see they won't offer it on the Z71, you know, the trim many folks would want it on.

NW-99SS · 07-29-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS

It will be interesting to see if the diesel will tow more in the full size SUVs. In the half ton trucks, it tows less than the 5.3 V8. From what I've seen here, the only folks that want the diesel are the ones interested in fuel economy first and towing isn't a priority.

The only way the 5.3 receives a higher tow rating is with the Max Trailering Package. Either way - anything over 10,000 is too much for a 1500, and all non-max trailering GM 1500s in Crewcab 4x4 are rated for 9300 trailer weight, including the diesel.

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Originally Posted by snizzle

Hope you're right.

I did see they won't offer it on the Z71, you know, the trim many folks would want it on.

I can build an LT with the configurator, select the diesel and the Z71 package

FenwickHockey65 · 07-29-2020, 09:29 AM

Hummer EV reveal scheduled for Q4 this year.

GearheadSS · 07-29-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NW-99SS

The only way the 5.3 receives a higher tow rating is with the Max Trailering Package. Either way - anything over 10,000 is too much for a 1500, and all non-max trailering GM 1500s in Crewcab 4x4 are rated for 9300 trailer weight, including the diesel.

Not true. Siverado crew cab 4x4 with the L84 5.3 and 3.23 axle ratio is rated at 9600 pounds. With the LM2 3.0 Duramax, it's rated at 9300 pounds. NHT max trailering takes it to 11,300 with the L84. The L84 is rated higher in all cab and bed length configurations.

This is straight from the 2020 order guide.

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