will GM tune a car with GM performance parts?? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

cowboy casey · 11-05-2015, 08:12 AM

SO, GM sells and installs a ton of performance parts, you can get engines, cams, superchargers and just about everything else..

https://chevroletperformanceparts.com

If we bought an LSA supercharger from the parts department and had it installed at the Chevy dealer would they do the tune also? would we have to buy an ECM for the ZL1?
https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...supercharger-3

Here is a stage 3 kit upgrade for the cobalt that comes with everything including ECM/PCM.
https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...ion-red-line-2

I know that GM stance is ANY tune will void the warranty and then the exact same sentence they say GM Performance parts will NOT void the warranty. here is the warranty card.. https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...d_0511Rev.pdf?

The question becomes, Do they install the parts and then you would have to tow the car to a tuner just to void the warranty?

To put this a different way, I go to company A and have them install a supercharger and they give me a warranty but they tell me, we can not start the car because company B has to tune it and once company B tunes it the warranty is voided.

Has anyone tried this? I am using mine as a daily driver and probably will not add a cam or SC but there are a lot of people here that have and will in the future.

SlingShot · 11-05-2015, 09:35 AM

In short the answer is no, GM does not tune for performance parts. The warranty you are seeing is for parts and is not to be confused with factory warranty. For example, you buy a supercharger from the dealer and have it installed. The new supercharger will carry the new parts warranty, but the rest of the engine is not covered.

There are a few items that you can get that won't effect your factory warranty if installed at the dealer, such as 3:91 gear, ZL1 brakes and a couple others.

GM has only offered a tune once that I can recall, and it was for the 2.0 LNF engine that maintained the factory warranty.

anth331 · 11-05-2015, 11:34 AM

When I had my 13 Sierra Denali I was going to put a factory supercharger on it. I talked with the service manager. He said GM doesn't sell or have factory tuners. Even if I put a factory supercharger I would have to get a tuner from somewhere else. He also said the factory warranty would be gone.

cowboy casey · 11-05-2015, 12:33 PM

I just got off the phone with a long time friend who builds 1/4 mile race cars... he has an 2014 SS and wanted a Supercharger for it.. He just said the same exact thing, they will install and will not do the tune and also you lose the warranty on the engine but have the warranty on the SC..

Crazzy when you think about it but smart business model I guess...

2010reddevil · 11-05-2015, 12:40 PM

That's why Ford kicks GM's ass royally. Companies like Roush and Saleen can do this and you still get the factory warranty. Why the hell doesn't GM do the same? Even the Super Snake had a warranty up to a certain power level.

SlingShot · 11-05-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

That's why Ford kicks GM's ass royally. Companies like Roush and Saleen can do this and you still get the factory warranty. Why the hell doesn't GM do the same? Even the Super Snake had a warranty up to a certain power level.

Not true, Roush and Saleen have their own warranty that is not part of Ford's factory warranty. It's the same type of thing you can get from Hennessey and Lingenfelter.

DRKS1D3 · 11-05-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

Not true, Roush and Saleen have their own warranty that is not part of Ford's factory warranty. It's the same type of thing you can get from Hennessey and Lingenfelter.

100% truth.

el ess A · 11-05-2015, 02:19 PM

GM also offers a tune adjustment, not necessarily a performance tune, when you buy the 3.91 gear set. They basically do a speedo re-calibration. It's included in the price of the kit.

MrChrisLS3 · 11-05-2015, 02:56 PM

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ChevroletPerformanceParts.com is owned and operated by Nesmith Auto Group, a GM Dealer, authorized in the reselling of General Motors Parts.
This site is not owned or operated by General Motors Corporation, Chevrolet Motor Division or Chevrolet Performance.

This is posted at the bottom of the website link to the LSA Supercharger. I too thought it was a good question, then I saw this, and realized what it was, an independent parts vendor.

I am yet to see a dealership with a dyno, so I'm thinking no on them tuning the car. If you look closely at a great many of the GMPP parts, especially the ones that are internal, you will see them labeled as 'off road use only'. This little statement gets them off the hook for the factory warranty, if I'm not mistaken.

Now, if buy it from the dealer parts dept, and they install it, which they may or may not, understand that it is looked upon as a change that you voluntarily made to the car. So, at that point, the powertrain warranty would most likely be gone. However, any existing warranties for non effected parts and systems still remain in tact. Again, as I understand it.

anth331 · 11-05-2015, 03:02 PM

The only car company that I know that you can keep your warranty is, Toyota. I know you can get a tundra or Tacoma with a FACTORY supercharger put in by Toyota and keep your factory warranty. When I bought my 99 Tacoma new they asked me if I wanted one. It was a 3500 dollar option. I declined. The service manager was my next door neighbor. He said that I was told right.

cowboy casey · 11-06-2015, 10:57 AM

VW, Audi and Porche (all the same company) Have no issues doing this, they will do the tune (from another company) and charge you for it

They will also do all the work installing any new aftermarket equipment...

At the VW dealer in OKC you can buy a brand new GTI, take it to stage 3 at 450 WHP and finance it and drive it off the lot..

Like I said before, its just not the same "feel" HP and nothing beats an 8 banger

KR4545 · 11-06-2015, 11:21 AM

I don't think I would trust a tune a VW dealer did, probably programmed to have good power on only Thursdays or something like that.

JR 1 · 11-06-2015, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KR4545

I don't think I would trust a tune a VW dealer did, probably programmed to have good power on only Thursdays or something like that.

It would probably be a great tune as long as you aren't concerned about passing an emissions test. VW doesn't let little things like laws get in the way of performance!

Snoman · 11-06-2015, 02:18 PM

If a manufacture warranty "void" is a concern for you, then do not modify it. GM does not do tunes, but what you are asking is (and I cannot stress this strongly enough) a discussion you need to be having with your service adviser. This is a simple relationship building scenario.

11-05-2015, 08:12 AM	#1
cowboy casey Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: United States Posts: 111 View My Garage	will GM tune a car with GM performance parts?? SO, GM sells and installs a ton of performance parts, you can get engines, cams, superchargers and just about everything else.. https://chevroletperformanceparts.com If we bought an LSA supercharger from the parts department and had it installed at the Chevy dealer would they do the tune also? would we have to buy an ECM for the ZL1? https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...supercharger-3 Here is a stage 3 kit upgrade for the cobalt that comes with everything including ECM/PCM. https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...ion-red-line-2 I know that GM stance is ANY tune will void the warranty and then the exact same sentence they say GM Performance parts will NOT void the warranty. here is the warranty card.. https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...d_0511Rev.pdf? The question becomes, Do they install the parts and then you would have to tow the car to a tuner just to void the warranty? To put this a different way, I go to company A and have them install a supercharger and they give me a warranty but they tell me, we can not start the car because company B has to tune it and once company B tunes it the warranty is voided. Has anyone tried this? I am using mine as a daily driver and probably will not add a cam or SC but there are a lot of people here that have and will in the future. __________________ My Daily Driver, 2015 2SS, 1LE

11-05-2015, 09:35 AM	#2
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	In short the answer is no, GM does not tune for performance parts. The warranty you are seeing is for parts and is not to be confused with factory warranty. For example, you buy a supercharger from the dealer and have it installed. The new supercharger will carry the new parts warranty, but the rest of the engine is not covered. There are a few items that you can get that won't effect your factory warranty if installed at the dealer, such as 3:91 gear, ZL1 brakes and a couple others. GM has only offered a tune once that I can recall, and it was for the 2.0 LNF engine that maintained the factory warranty. __________________

11-05-2015, 12:33 PM	#4
cowboy casey Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: United States Posts: 111 View My Garage	I just got off the phone with a long time friend who builds 1/4 mile race cars... he has an 2014 SS and wanted a Supercharger for it.. He just said the same exact thing, they will install and will not do the tune and also you lose the warranty on the engine but have the warranty on the SC.. Crazzy when you think about it but smart business model I guess... __________________ My Daily Driver, 2015 2SS, 1LE

11-05-2015, 12:40 PM	#5
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	That's why Ford kicks GM's ass royally. Companies like Roush and Saleen can do this and you still get the factory warranty. Why the hell doesn't GM do the same? Even the Super Snake had a warranty up to a certain power level. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

11-05-2015, 02:19 PM	#8
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,564	GM also offers a tune adjustment, not necessarily a performance tune, when you buy the 3.91 gear set. They basically do a speedo re-calibration. It's included in the price of the kit. __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

11-05-2015, 11:34 AM	#3
anth331 Drives: 12SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Dayton, Tx. 77535 Posts: 728	When I had my 13 Sierra Denali I was going to put a factory supercharger on it. I talked with the service manager. He said GM doesn't sell or have factory tuners. Even if I put a factory supercharger I would have to get a tuner from somewhere else. He also said the factory warranty would be gone.

11-05-2015, 03:02 PM	#10
anth331 Drives: 12SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Dayton, Tx. 77535 Posts: 728	The only car company that I know that you can keep your warranty is, Toyota. I know you can get a tundra or Tacoma with a FACTORY supercharger put in by Toyota and keep your factory warranty. When I bought my 99 Tacoma new they asked me if I wanted one. It was a 3500 dollar option. I declined. The service manager was my next door neighbor. He said that I was told right.

11-06-2015, 10:57 AM	#11
cowboy casey Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: United States Posts: 111 View My Garage	VW, Audi and Porche (all the same company) Have no issues doing this, they will do the tune (from another company) and charge you for it They will also do all the work installing any new aftermarket equipment... At the VW dealer in OKC you can buy a brand new GTI, take it to stage 3 at 450 WHP and finance it and drive it off the lot.. Like I said before, its just not the same "feel" HP and nothing beats an 8 banger __________________ My Daily Driver, 2015 2SS, 1LE

11-06-2015, 11:21 AM	#12
KR4545 Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: NYC area Posts: 304	I don't think I would trust a tune a VW dealer did, probably programmed to have good power on only Thursdays or something like that. __________________

11-06-2015, 02:18 PM	#14
Snoman H-Town Camaro Club Drives: 2013 Dusk Edition 2SS/M6/Sun/NPP Join Date: May 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 2,234 View My Garage	If a manufacture warranty "void" is a concern for you, then do not modify it. GM does not do tunes, but what you are asking is (and I cannot stress this strongly enough) a discussion you need to be having with your service adviser. This is a simple relationship building scenario.