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Old 10-26-2021, 11:20 PM   #1
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2023 Z06-Impressed or not?

Estimated 0-60 2.6 and the qtr in 10.5. I'm sure it puts the power down great and would kick my ZL1 all over a road course, but 1/2 mile??

My former C5 Z with 620 hp did 156 in the 1/2 mile and weighed right at 3100 pounds, so a 3700lb, 670hp Z will run 160ish???

The C8 hasn't quite grown on me yet, but the promo with Amelia and D Book was pretty impressive.

How impressed are you?
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Old 10-26-2021, 11:37 PM   #2
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Not impressed at all, from a total package p.o.v.

Honestly, I love the new engine, as I've always been drawn to NA vs SC (or turbolol) but the design of the C8 precludes me from ever partaking.

For how it looks it's just another wannabe euro-car, and if that's your jam then cool. For my dollars though I'd rather get a C7 ZR1 or ACR-E Viper.
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:18 AM   #3
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I like it. I'd say pretty awesome for naturally aspirated. Cant wait to see how GM tops this Z06 with the ZR1. Now if only someone would buy my ZLE for $70k so i can buy this Z06...!
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:51 AM   #4
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Massively impressed. Original rumors were around 620hp which I thought was meh...but 670hp is AMAZING. That car is going to fly.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:54 AM   #5
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Not impressed at all, from a total package p.o.v.

Honestly, I love the new engine, as I've always been drawn to NA vs SC (or turbolol) but the design of the C8 precludes me from ever partaking.

For how it looks it's just another wannabe euro-car, and if that's your jam then cool. For my dollars though I'd rather get a C7 ZR1 or ACR-E Viper.
And both of those cars would get absolutely smoked by the new Z06, to each their own.
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:11 AM   #6
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Not a fan of the C8 design but, really like that engine.
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:22 AM   #7
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Depends on final curb weight and price of the Z07 optioned setup with Carbon Fiber wheels, but ill venture to say that the curb weight will be 3600+ easy. Dry weight at the lightest / fully carbon spec'd is 3434 so figure another 150-180lbs for fluids and such. As such, if GM is wanting $150k for the car with those options, I would laugh all the way out the door. Its neat looking to a degree but simply not worth the money they are asking. $150k would see me sitting in a Porsche 911 GT3 all day over an overpriced vette.

Also, the unfortunate reality is that for folks who do want to shell out the dough for it, not many will be able to buy one without a seriously exorbitant ADM upcharge. I refuse to pay greedy dealers ADM even though I could afford it, so thats the game ender for me. When the twin turbo ZR1 comes out, that could be a serious consideration but the fact is the ADM dealer r*pe is going to be awful on those even more so.

Looking forward though to the C8 coming down in price to what its actually worth, 60-65k and humbling the idiots who shelled out an ADM'd 100k+ for a base model vette lol.
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:29 AM   #8
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Depends on final curb weight and price of the Z07 optioned setup with Carbon Fiber wheels, but ill venture to say that the curb weight will be 3600+ easy. Dry weight at the lightest / fully carbon spec'd is 3434 so figure another 150-180lbs for fluids and such. As such, if GM is wanting $150k for the car with those options, I would laugh all the way out the door. Its neat looking to a degree but simply not worth the money they are asking. $150k would see me sitting in a Porsche 911 GT3 all day over an overpriced vette.

Also, the unfortunate reality is that for folks who do want to shell out the dough for it, not many will be able to buy one without a seriously exorbitant ADM upcharge. I refuse to pay greedy dealers ADM even though I could afford it, so thats the game ender for me. When the twin turbo ZR1 comes out, that could be a serious consideration but the fact is the ADM dealer r*pe is going to be awful on those even more so.


Looking forward though to the C8 coming down in price to what its actually worth, 60-65k and humbling the idiots who shelled out an ADM'd 100k+ for a base model vette lol.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. The C8 is a massive performance bargain, the Z06 will be too. Even with some ADM, its still a massive bargain.
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:38 AM   #9
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Absolutely impressed! I'm on 4 different dealer lists, but I'm WAY down the list so realistically I'm not gonna be able to get one for 2-3 years......I'm all over the Corvette forums and in one case a dealer quoted a $100k markup so these things are gonna be crazy expensive.

The regular C8 with stock wheels doesn't look great to me, but when you put the right wheel on I think it looks awesome. The Z06 seems to fix those aesthetic issues and looks fantastic to me. LOVE my ZLE but I'd replace it in a heartbeat with the Z06.
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Old 10-27-2021, 07:14 AM   #10
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Not a fan of the C8 design but, really like that engine.
Same here.
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Old 10-27-2021, 07:32 AM   #11
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And both of those cars would get absolutely smoked by the new Z06, to each their own.
As I said in another Z06 thread, this is a "see Ferrari? we can do it too" car, which is great (seriously), but not everyone's cup of tea.

Also, its 670 hp output is mostly thanks to the 8400 rpm redline, I'm sure it has much less torque down low and even overall. Again, a very respectable high rpm for a GM engine, but this isn't particularly special and neither are the looks. Maybe the price will be low enough to make the entire package attractive, once it actually becomes available.
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Old 10-27-2021, 07:46 AM   #12
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As I said in another Z06 thread, this is a "see Ferrari? we can do it too" car, which is great (seriously), but not everyone's cup of tea.

Also, its 670 hp output is mostly thanks to the 8400 rpm redline, I'm sure it has much less torque down low and even overall. Again, a very respectable high rpm for a GM engine, but this isn't particularly special and neither are the looks. Maybe the price will be low enough to make the entire package attractive, once it actually becomes available.
This isn't just a "see Ferrari we can do it too". The holy grail of performance is mid-engine, GM had no choice but to move this route at some point in order to continue to improve performance. The front engine platform was already tapped out. The new engine is also not a "see Ferrari we can do it too". GM's engine will be far more reliable, achieve better gas mileage and emissions than any European equivalent. You can downplay it as much as you want but GM has achieved something very special here and will do it at a fraction of the cost of any European supercar. I fail to see how that's not impressive to anyone if they truly understand automotive design.

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Old 10-27-2021, 07:48 AM   #13
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It's impressive, but not a car that fits my personality. I am glad GM's doing it though.
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Old 10-27-2021, 07:50 AM   #14
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It's impressive, but not a car that fits my personality. I am glad GM's doing it though.
I can respect that opinion.
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