[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by Chutzpah

Very, very true. When I was on the Stang forum, he turned me off …Whining about people asking for advice on parts and buying elsewhere. IMHO, it didn’t take much effort or knowledge to improve support hardware of the of the S197 chassis. You’re not a genius Sam.

The fact that there were such effusive praise for him and to buy parts from HIM, from “new members” always made me feel as though he was creating the new accounts and writing the reviews himself. Now, none of what I say may be true, but his over the top persona really struck a nerve with me. So take what I’m saying at face value only. I will say that I made sure I bought all of my parts elsewhere.

And back to topic, he needs to provide a bit more feedback on why he thinks the brakes are dangerous on the 1LE. This is just another example of what drove me nuts about the guy…

I know what you mean, but I just think that he is just passionate about the products that he sells that he trust while he uses them on the sport competitions that he participates, and that is fine. I personally approached him because when I sold my Porsche 911 Carrera that I used to participate on my local PCA sport events, bought a S197 and saw that on several Mustang communities he gave great advise on what to do to fellow owners to improve the performance of their cars. On my case he was very accurate because he help me with his advise and products in order to improve my '11 Mustang GT 5.0 handling, now my car was able to compete at BMW M levels at the track. That was my experience.
I know that besides his Mustangs, he has competed with a C7 Corvette Grand Sport and recently with a Camaro SS1LE and the new Mustang Mach l.
Here I attached an article that I found about who is Sam Strano.

https://garageheroesintraining.com/s...-on-autocross/

I'm guessing that probably he had a bad experience, but that doesn't mean that the 6th gen Camaro is unsafe at all, based on other well reputation reviewers that have talked very highly about the car.

Personally I believe that the 6th gen Camaro is one of the best sport car performers on the planet for the $ and very able to compete with BMW Ms, Shelbys and even with the Corvette C8 Z51. Also very highly praised by sport car drivers like: Randy Pobst, Jonny Lieberman, Jason Camissa, Carlos Lago and Andy Pilgrim.

[ZL1 affair]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

My mistake, I thought we were talking about Randy pobsts comparison video of the Mach 1 vs ss 1le

I didn't see that video posted here. Randy Pobst with the Mach1 and SS1LE ->

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by ZL1 affair

I didn't see that video posted here. Randy Pobst with the Mach1 and SS1LE ->

I also think the Mach 1 is ugly compared to the SS!

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by ZL1 affair

I didn't see that video posted here. Randy Pobst with the Mach1 and SS1LE ->

Congrats to Ford. It only took them, what, 6yrs to be .4 seconds faster at AMP with a 10spd Mach 1 than a 4yr old, manual 1LE with 40k miles.

That’s mighty fine work there.

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

I also think the Mach 1 is ugly compared to the SS!

Maybe, but I love those Recaro’s.

[Camaro fanboy]

catfish looks. ugly things

[Chevelle vs Camaro]

Mach 1 is the first post 2017 facelift (other than GT 500) that i like.

Both those cars are gorgeous!


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[Bosse'sBoss]

In this order of preference:
1. Camaro ZL1
2. Corvette C7 Grand Sport
3. Shelby GT350R
4. Camaro SS1LE
5. 2019- Shelby GT350
6. Mustang Mach l

[JOHNSONROD]

[QUOTE=Chevelle vs Camaro;11056600]Mach 1 is the first post 2017 facelift (other than GT 500) that i like.

Both those cars are gorgeous!


i agree that the mustang is a fine looking car. had a buddy that had a GT 350 (not an R) and he did well at NCM with that car. i also love having our mustang buddy Norm on here too. hes a wealth of knowledge, and just a good dude. your gonna get fan boys on both sides that love or hate the radiator fluid in the other car lol. the rivalry should be fun but help each other in the paddock, THEN go beat the crap outta each other on track!
i will say that on the 1LE brakes, ive read on here several places that say the brake lines are really good and dont need replacing. i put the good SS lines on mine and i could tell night and day difference immediately. very firm pedal and modulation is "race car" good.

[Aragorn]

Yep nice car and finally a good m6, but it’s too expensive.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Yep nice car and finally a good m6, but it’s too expensive.

You bring up an excellent point.

I didn’t know what they go for so I just did a quick look. $65-73K is bat shit crazy. That’s what I paid for my Z.

So let’s compare money apples to apples, a ZL1 would kick it in the nuts.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by gtfoxy

You bring up an excellent point.

I didn’t know what they go for so I just did a quick look. $65-73K is bat shit crazy. That’s what I paid for my Z.

So let’s compare money apples to apples, a ZL1 would kick it in the nuts.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by gtfoxy

You bring up an excellent point.

I didn’t know what they go for so I just did a quick look. $65-73K is bat shit crazy. That’s what I paid for my Z.

So let’s compare money apples to apples, a ZL1 would kick it in the nuts.

Isn’t this the point where a Ford fan enters the discussion to say the Mach 1 is “special”?

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Isn’t this the point where a Ford fan enters the discussion to say the Mach 1 is “special”?

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Isn’t this the point where a Ford fan enters the discussion to say the Mach 1 is “special”?

Not even close. Even that among the various Mustang trim levels that would be on the short list of cars I'd consider buying (price-independent) if I needed to replace the toy I already have on short notice. Price-dependent, it'd almost certainly slip enough places to get kicked off the list.

I'd reserve the "special" tag for cars like the original GT40, the 1st gen GT350 and the 1963 split-window Corvette.


Norm