What Does This Tell Us?

2cnd chance · 10-13-2021, 09:40 PM

People prefer more power in their Muscle Car than a brilliant chassis design. The antiquated design wins?? Apparently if it has more power even if it can’t put it to the ground.

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/c...scle+Car+Sales

Vaska · 10-13-2021, 09:52 PM

Meh. Challengers and Mustangs are god damn everywhere. Camaros are a lot more rare and I’m ok with that.

BlaqWhole · 10-13-2021, 10:08 PM

Aggressive advertising including using social media.

Aggressive discounts including the Power Days or Dollar Days (or whatever it's called) sales event with discounts like $10 per HP including Hellcats, Durangos, etc.

Aggressive strategies offering trucks at comparably low prices to get people in the door where they see Challys on the sales floor...it's a powerful motivator for customers to return. I leased a brand new Ram 1500 for much less than the competition offered.

Aggressive commercials with heart pumping theatrics including burnouts, enthusiastic city driving...gets the adrenaline flowing.

Tons of options without having to add on option groups and packages like you have to do with Mustangs. 301a, 401a, PP, PP1, Pony Package, yada yada. Dodge simplified the process of adding options.

And many other reasons. Dodge has slowly crept up over years of fine tuning and making improvements. This was bound to happen sooner or later.

Chutzpah · 10-13-2021, 10:12 PM

I think people like the look, the physical size and yes, the power.

I agree with you though…I’d rather have a great chassis than the power. I stepped away from a ZL1, but not a Camaro (waiting for allocation now). So, handling is much more important to me than brute force (although, power isn’t bad either)

Aquarius · 10-13-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Aggressive advertising including using social media.

Aggressive discounts including the Power Days or Dollar Days (or whatever it's called) sales event with discounts like $10 per HP including Hellcats, Durangos, etc.

Aggressive strategies offering trucks at comparably low prices to get people in the door where they see Challys on the sales floor...it's a powerful motivator for customers to return. I leased a brand new Ram 1500 for much less than the competition offered.

Aggressive commercials with heart pumping theatrics including burnouts, enthusiastic city driving...gets the adrenaline flowing.

Tons of options without having to add on option groups and packages like you have to do with Mustangs. 301a, 401a, PP, PP1, Pony Package, yada yada. Dodge simplified the process of adding options.

And many other reasons. Dodge has slowly crept up over years of fine tuning and making improvements. This was bound to happen sooner or later.

But GM put the Camaro in a Transformers movie! Paid so much money to do it they changed the character form a Volkswagen Bug to a Camaro...now they have no money left in the budget to advertise it any further :P

Nilly Welson · 10-13-2021, 11:18 PM

This is one of Dodges milder ads...but at least they advertise. No wonder Ford is losing sales...and Chevy is just pathetic with their soccer mom weak ass ads.

Nilly Welson · 10-13-2021, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaska

Meh. Challengers and Mustangs are god damn everywhere. Camaros are a lot more rare and I’m ok with that.

The more Camaros out their the more after market performance support, so no I'm not happy with that.

crysalis_01 · 10-14-2021, 12:09 AM

People still watch ads? Where?

Vaska · 10-14-2021, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilly Welson

The more Camaros out their the more after market performance support, so no I'm not happy with that.

You want more variety in exhaust pipes and intakes than what’s already out there? Ok.

JamesNoBrakes · 10-14-2021, 12:55 AM

The same thing that all the shopping carts left in the parking lot tell us or the obesity rates in the US.

People are lazy and want quick thrills on a platter.

EV cars can't come soon enough for them.

arpad_m · 10-14-2021, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Aggressive advertising including using social media.

Aggressive discounts including the Power Days or Dollar Days (or whatever it's called) sales event with discounts like $10 per HP including Hellcats, Durangos, etc.

Aggressive strategies offering trucks at comparably low prices to get people in the door where they see Challys on the sales floor...it's a powerful motivator for customers to return. I leased a brand new Ram 1500 for much less than the competition offered.

Aggressive commercials with heart pumping theatrics including burnouts, enthusiastic city driving...gets the adrenaline flowing.

Tons of options without having to add on option groups and packages like you have to do with Mustangs. 301a, 401a, PP, PP1, Pony Package, yada yada. Dodge simplified the process of adding options.

And many other reasons. Dodge has slowly crept up over years of fine tuning and making improvements. This was bound to happen sooner or later.

+1

Even their freaking electric muscle car ad is good, and this is coming from someone who tends to see notebook screens on wheels less than exciting, no matter their 0-60.

Spaceme1117 · 10-14-2021, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

People prefer more power in their Muscle Car than a brilliant chassis design. The antiquated design wins?? Apparently if it has more power even if it can’t put it to the ground.

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/c...scle+Car+Sales

Dodge or Stellantis or whatever, has done a way better job with marketing.

And credit where credit is due, Dodge is who created this modern muscle car renaissance.

And the fact that they have put the Hellcat engine in nearly everything is pretty awesome.

I would love to see a Hellcat version of the Pacifica mininvan.

Smokin19 · 10-14-2021, 06:07 AM

Our resident Dodge owner will be happy with this thread but, for some reason he still misses his Camaro, go figure.

s346k · 10-14-2021, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaska

You want more variety in exhaust pipes and intakes than what’s already out there? Ok.

and this is why the camaro dies.

10-13-2021, 09:40 PM	#1
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	What Does This Tell Us? People prefer more power in their Muscle Car than a brilliant chassis design. The antiquated design wins?? Apparently if it has more power even if it can’t put it to the ground. https://www.powernationtv.com/post/c...scle+Car+Sales __________________

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JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,301	The same thing that all the shopping carts left in the parking lot tell us or the obesity rates in the US. People are lazy and want quick thrills on a platter. EV cars can't come soon enough for them. __________________ Everything happens for a reason, except when it doesn't, but even then, you can, in hindsight, fabricate a reason that satisfies your belief system. 2018 2SS 1LE 2023 Colorado ZR2 2022 Stinger GT-line AWD

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Smokin19 Drives: 19' ZL1 A10, w/pdr Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: S.W. ohio Posts: 1,551	Our resident Dodge owner will be happy with this thread but, for some reason he still misses his Camaro, go figure. __________________ BTR Stg II cam w/ 38% fuel lobe, ARH 2" headers into 3" w/cats, AWE Touring, Kong X port, Weapon X triple ht exchangers, NW 103, Rotofab big gulp, DSX lowside, TCM tune, BMR Lockout, Mustang dyno 720 rwhp, 634 rwtq on 93 pump.

10-13-2021, 09:52 PM	#2
Vaska Drives: On Hiatus Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Sask Posts: 314	Meh. Challengers and Mustangs are god damn everywhere. Camaros are a lot more rare and I’m ok with that.

10-13-2021, 10:08 PM	#3
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	Aggressive advertising including using social media. Aggressive discounts including the Power Days or Dollar Days (or whatever it's called) sales event with discounts like $10 per HP including Hellcats, Durangos, etc. Aggressive strategies offering trucks at comparably low prices to get people in the door where they see Challys on the sales floor...it's a powerful motivator for customers to return. I leased a brand new Ram 1500 for much less than the competition offered. Aggressive commercials with heart pumping theatrics including burnouts, enthusiastic city driving...gets the adrenaline flowing. Tons of options without having to add on option groups and packages like you have to do with Mustangs. 301a, 401a, PP, PP1, Pony Package, yada yada. Dodge simplified the process of adding options. And many other reasons. Dodge has slowly crept up over years of fine tuning and making improvements. This was bound to happen sooner or later.

10-13-2021, 10:12 PM	#4
Chutzpah Drives: Wild Cherry LT1 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,925	I think people like the look, the physical size and yes, the power. I agree with you though…I’d rather have a great chassis than the power. I stepped away from a ZL1, but not a Camaro (waiting for allocation now). So, handling is much more important to me than brute force (although, power isn’t bad either)