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PQ · 03-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I don't see why it should need to be below the base Corvette if it will out perform it in handling and acceleration.

Pontiac was killed because it didn't make money, unlike GMC which is their most profitable brand. Keep in mind that in addition to interesting cars like the Solstice and the G8, there was also the G3 and Vibe. And there was less distinction (both price and features) between a G5 and a Cobalt vs Sierra and Silverado.

And last I checked, their weren't many 'Fleet' Pontiac companies.

81z28355 · 03-19-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G8GT4now

It has to between the Camaro 2SS (base MSRP $33,945) and base Vette (base MSRP of $48,930) for it to really make any sense. But does GM always do what makes sense? Like why keep GMC and kill Pontiac?

What makes you think a Z/28 buyer would even look at a base Vette? If I were just out of school making good money, sure the Vette would be great. And if I were an old fart like most Vette owners and my kids out of the house a vette would make sense. But for the rest of us between 30 - 65 that still have kids that might want to go for a ride with mom and dad its a no brainer.

So my point is for a certain market GM CAN charge more for a 5xx HP Z/28 and still sell 3500 - 8000 units a year just like Ford is doing.

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-19-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

I predict it will be north of 50k and will be even more exciting than anyone ever thought before. Also, I predict it will be the best Camaro that's ever been produced.

...both in a straight line....and in the twisties.

how far north of 50k? lol

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Originally Posted by sen10l

Why do people keep thinking this will be released toward the "end" of 2011? This is insane thinking for a car predominantly driven in summer. Think about it. We're not talking about regular "Malibus" that get released in the fall.

When was the 2010 Camaro released? I'm thinking the same time of the year for the Z/28.

you do realize the 2010 camaro was released a lot sooner than a normal production car normally is in order to help boost the sales numbers.

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Originally Posted by G8GT4now

It has to between the Camaro 2SS (base MSRP $33,945) and base Vette (base MSRP of $48,930) for it to really make any sense. But does GM always do what makes sense? Like why keep GMC and kill Pontiac?

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Originally Posted by 81z28355

So my point is for a certain market GM CAN charge more for a 5xx HP Z/28 and still sell 3500 - 8000 units a year just like Ford is doing.

and what if they want to sell more units a year than ford?

81z28355 · 03-19-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

how far north of 50k? lol

you do realize the 2010 camaro was released a lot sooner than a normal production car normally is in order to help boost the sales numbers.

and what if they want to sell more units a year than ford?

If they want to sell more than that forget about the LSA. Both the ZR1 and the CTS-V are gas guzzlers. I wouldnt think GM would want 25k of those on the street. But who know maybe they can gear it to get better MPG than a 3200lb Corvette.

strobi · 03-19-2010, 09:19 PM

if your asking how much....you can't afford it in the first place.....

TLSTWIN · 03-19-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strobi

if your asking how much....you can't afford it in the first place.....

I believe $55,000 +/- 2,000.... I am basing this on the way SLP is doing their ZL cars.

*DGthe3* · 03-19-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by strobi

if your asking how much....you can't afford it in the first place.....

This isn't $500,000 exotic ...

IConnection · 03-19-2010, 11:05 PM

The Z/28 will NOT be faster in the straights or the twistys vs the Vette
U can bank on that as the new base C7 will be lighter and better thanthe Z/28..

GM will never let this happen...
Think back to 1987 and the GN debockle...

Now pricing on the Z
I say 45 to just under 50 for all the bells and whistles..

*DGthe3* · 03-19-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by InjectionConnection

The Z/28 will NOT be faster in the straights or the twistys vs the Vette
U can bank on that as the new base C7 will be lighter and better thanthe Z/28..

GM will never let this happen...
Think back to 1987 and the GN debockle...

Now pricing on the Z
I say 45 to just under 50 for all the bells and whistles..

The C7 is expected to come out after the Z28 is released. And its also expected to go up in price, in addition to being smaller, lighter, and with a better interior. Someone, might have been Fbodfather, has said they GM is not afraid of stepping on the Corvettes toes with the Camaro. If it doesn't outperform the current C6, that leaves a very narrow performance window since the GT500, particularly the new one with the aluminum engine, is also nipping at the heels of the C6.

ralniv · 03-20-2010, 01:35 AM

MSRP: $43k

I'm watching this one closely. I'm in the market for a new car in another 1-2 yrs and this is a compelling platform for me. I hope Chevy can improve the interior by then.

I don't think I can convince myself to spend more than a $10k premium over an SS. I mean no offense, but this is a Camaro. For $50k I can get a C63 AMG with a friends/family employee discount.

import_killa · 03-20-2010, 05:16 AM

basically save up like ur buying a vette cause im thinking it will be around the same price as a vette or the GT500 give or take a cpl thousand and u should have enuff when that time comes

Carlos Garza · 03-20-2010, 07:50 AM

I'll building my own Z28...

nhra stocker · 03-20-2010, 04:24 PM

As long as it can stay in the same price range and out perform a GT-500 that's good enough for me!

ralniv · 03-21-2010, 01:11 PM

Where does a Z28 fit within GM's existing product line and competitively outside GM?

GM's Competing Products
Camaro SS = $31k
Corvette coupe = $50k
Cadillac CTS-V = $60k

Competing Products
Mustang GT-500 = $47k
Mustang GT = $29k

The CTS-V was developed as a world-class luxury sports sedan intended to compete with the M3 and C63 AMG (or arguably their big brothers). The Z28 clearly belongs below the CTS-V. Corvette sales are slumping and the GT-500 is a limited production (~5k units per year) model. Given these parameters I would price the base model in the mid 40s. Try to get the bigger market with a slightly lower price and avoid too much encroachment on the Vette.

03-20-2010, 05:16 AM	#67
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03-20-2010, 04:24 PM	#69
nhra stocker Drives: 69,10 camaro 71 chevelle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shelbyville, IL Posts: 722 View My Garage	As long as it can stay in the same price range and out perform a GT-500 that's good enough for me! __________________ 2010 Camaro SS RS M6 Bone stock 12.58 at 110mph http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=263 1971 Chevelle SS 454 365hp NHRA C/SA 10.73 at 122 1969 Camaro (427 ZL-1 clone) M-22 being built 1982 Siverado 4x4 454 Mud truck stock class 3.66 sec in 150' of mud

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03-19-2010, 09:19 PM	#61
strobi MJ STROH Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LTRS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Buffalo, WY Posts: 185 View My Garage	if your asking how much....you can't afford it in the first place.....

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IConnection Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Horsham,Pa. Posts: 221	The Z/28 will NOT be faster in the straights or the twistys vs the Vette U can bank on that as the new base C7 will be lighter and better thanthe Z/28.. GM will never let this happen... Think back to 1987 and the GN debockle... Now pricing on the Z I say 45 to just under 50 for all the bells and whistles..

03-20-2010, 01:35 AM	#66
ralniv Drives: far too much Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern CA Posts: 72	MSRP: $43k I'm watching this one closely. I'm in the market for a new car in another 1-2 yrs and this is a compelling platform for me. I hope Chevy can improve the interior by then. I don't think I can convince myself to spend more than a $10k premium over an SS. I mean no offense, but this is a Camaro. For $50k I can get a C63 AMG with a friends/family employee discount.

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Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	I'll building my own Z28...

03-21-2010, 01:11 PM	#70
ralniv Drives: far too much Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern CA Posts: 72	Where does a Z28 fit within GM's existing product line and competitively outside GM? GM's Competing Products Camaro SS = $31k Corvette coupe = $50k Cadillac CTS-V = $60k Competing Products Mustang GT-500 = $47k Mustang GT = $29k The CTS-V was developed as a world-class luxury sports sedan intended to compete with the M3 and C63 AMG (or arguably their big brothers). The Z28 clearly belongs below the CTS-V. Corvette sales are slumping and the GT-500 is a limited production (~5k units per year) model. Given these parameters I would price the base model in the mid 40s. Try to get the bigger market with a slightly lower price and avoid too much encroachment on the Vette.