Interloper - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

john3352 · 01-03-2009, 11:48 AM

OK, I'll admit it... the new up-coming Camaro is a hot unit... and I must say as a diehard Ford fan it actually looks like the Bowtie boys are actually going to put some real fear into the blue oval boys... then I read a GM posting that stated they were putting the Camaro convertible on hold... then then the financial fiasco happened... then I saw the upcoming 2010-GT500 (insanely wild-540bhp-510 Lb-ft of torque)... and the stick shift SRT-8 Challenger is coming... and now it looks like the Camarro has it's a unfair fight in front of it... Again I saw the Camarro-SS hitting the ring in Germany and posting some impressive numbers, but again time waits for no-one and competition strengthens the breed and makes the world go round.

I think the New Camaro is a hot piece and was really concidering a purchase all the hype was to intense and all the photo were hot.. and then on 1/2/2009I saw the 2010-GT500... and I'm really rethinking my options... Blue oval to the rescue again. Sorry guys!

dieseldave24v · 01-03-2009, 11:55 AM

And the point of this thread is? I mean what kind of responses are you looking for? I love the Camaro like 99.9% of members on this site. I like the new gt 500, no wait I think like is the wrong word. I respect it.

blazzin1 · 01-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Hey if you like the GT500 (and can afford it), then more power to ya... That leaves more Camaros for us!!! Good Luck in your blue oval endeavors.

*The_Blur* · 01-03-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseldave24v

And the point of this thread is? I mean what kind of responses are you looking for? I love the Camaro like 99.9% of members on this site. I like the new gt 500, no wait I think like is the wrong word. I respect it.

I think the point is that he wants the best of the three and doesn't believe that the Camaro will still be the best.

While I respect your logic, I feel that the GT500 isn't in the same class as a Challenger SRT8, Mustang GT, or Camaro SS. It is simply impossible for a car that hasn't traditionally been a competitor of the SS platform to be seen on the same level. However, I completely understand that the GT500 is a superior Mustang and that it stands alone right now as a dominant car in that variety.

I'm not going to try to convince you, a Ford guy, to drive a Chevy. The fact that you considered it at all was enough for me to be proud of my decision. In any case, a Ford guy should drive a Ford, so this doesn't hurt my feelings. I hope you enjoy your GT500. Sometime, I hope one of us sees you at the track.

*KILLER74Z28* · 01-03-2009, 12:44 PM

:troll:

TJ91 · 01-03-2009, 12:48 PM

The GT500 is in a class of its own, wait until a Z28 pops up in years and then we can have a face off, Bow-Tie vs Blue Oval, but for now it will be the GT vs SS in which we know the SS will kill it, the 4.0 vs the 3.6DI which we would win, and to be honest, we should be comparing the SS to the Chally RT and not the SRT8 because its the more expensive top competitor (but we still would run against it), it shold be RT vs GT vs SS, and then SRT8 vs GT500 vs Z28 or ZL1.
Glad to hear from a die-hard ford fan that the Camaro was an option, if you have the pocket then by all means go for the GT500, just be afriad when you see a blown out SS pull up next to you as a sleeper and blow your doors off.
I like the fact that everyone has thier different interest, my brother had an 05 mustang, i have ordered my camaro, and my dad will be getting a Challenger RT in the next year, a ponycar-war in my driveway!
As long as its Domestic, im happy!

Captain Awesome · 01-03-2009, 12:49 PM

If you can afford a GT500, then why settle for sloppy seconds when you can get a Corvette?

*The_Blur* · 01-03-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

If you can afford a GT500, then why settle for sloppy seconds when you can get a Corvette?

We need to look through the [demented] eyes of a Ford guy.

In all seriousness, the GT500 has a back seat and is the peak performer of the Mustang enthusiast. I think this decision makes sense for a Ford guy. If he were all about the top performer, he'd be saving up for a Viper ACR.

Captain Awesome · 01-03-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

We need to look through the [demented] eyes of a Ford guy.

In all seriousness, the GT500 has a back seat and is the peak performer of the Mustang enthusiast. I think this decision makes sense for a Ford guy. If he were all about the top performer, he'd be saving up for a Viper ACR.

That beats a ZR1?

*The_Blur* · 01-03-2009, 01:03 PM

The Viper won on the Nurburgring, according to Autoblog.

zebra · 01-03-2009, 02:06 PM

after checking out a challenger r/t yesterday, i gotta say i ain't impressed. i finally saw that infamous boring interior (even though the seats felt really comfortable & the side bolsters fit me perfectly). for the same price, i could get an SS that's a few hundred lbs lighter, has more power, looks much better inside & out, and sounds much better! (and that's comparing it to the sound from the youtube vids on here). just my .02

TheClassicCarKid · 01-03-2009, 02:12 PM

There's only one thing to be said here, :tweetz:

*DGthe3* · 01-04-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john3352

OK, I'll admit it... the new up-coming Camarro is a hot unit... and I must say as a diehard Ford fan it actually looks like the Bowtie boys are actually going to put some real fear into the blue oval boys... then I read a GM posting that stated they were putting the Camarro convertible on hold... then then the financial fiasco happened... then I saw the upcoming 2010-GT500 (insanely wild-540bhp-510 Lb-ft of torque)... and the stick shift SRT-8 Challenger is coming... and now it looks like the Camarro has it's a unfair fight in front of it... Again I saw the Camarro-SS hitting the ring in Germany and posting some impressive numbers, but again time waits for no-one and competition strengthens the breed and makes the world go round.

I think the New Camarro is a hot piece and was really concidering a purchase all the hype was to intense and all the photo were hot.. and then on 1/2/2009I saw the 2010-GT500... and I'm really rethinking my options... Blue oval to the rescue again. Sorry guys!

For the same price as a GT500 (GT540?) you could get an SS and a supercharger. As far as the manual SRT8, the manual SS should outperform it due to weight. Now, if its styling that is influencing you rather than price or performance, there isn't a whole lot that anyone could say.

FirstLSK · 01-04-2009, 03:44 AM

You beat me to it DG. I think some of the "my little pony" guys forget about the old rule -- there is no replacement for displacement.

The GT500 comes with a boosted 5.4 liter and a price tag of 10k over the SS. The SS comes with a 6.2 liter and for less than the delta in the price, you could easily bolt on a pro-charger and better the GT500 by 100 hp. Styling -- that's personal preference and there will never be a winning argument. That said, it will be very interesting to hear the overall non-enthusiast opinion when the 5th gens are prowling the streets.

01-03-2009, 11:48 AM	#1
john3352 Ford Guy Drives: Mustang GT, E320 4matic Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 5	Interloper OK, I'll admit it... the new up-coming Camaro is a hot unit... and I must say as a diehard Ford fan it actually looks like the Bowtie boys are actually going to put some real fear into the blue oval boys... then I read a GM posting that stated they were putting the Camaro convertible on hold... then then the financial fiasco happened... then I saw the upcoming 2010-GT500 (insanely wild-540bhp-510 Lb-ft of torque)... and the stick shift SRT-8 Challenger is coming... and now it looks like the Camarro has it's a unfair fight in front of it... Again I saw the Camarro-SS hitting the ring in Germany and posting some impressive numbers, but again time waits for no-one and competition strengthens the breed and makes the world go round. I think the New Camaro is a hot piece and was really concidering a purchase all the hype was to intense and all the photo were hot.. and then on 1/2/2009I saw the 2010-GT500... and I'm really rethinking my options... Blue oval to the rescue again. Sorry guys!

01-03-2009, 11:55 AM	#2
dieseldave24v PowerStroke this Ford boy Drives: Like Don Garlits "Big Daddy" Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Richlands/Camp Lejeune NC Posts: 462	And the point of this thread is? I mean what kind of responses are you looking for? I love the Camaro like 99.9% of members on this site. I like the new gt 500, no wait I think like is the wrong word. I respect it. __________________ Hey big man let me hold a dollar

01-03-2009, 12:44 PM	#5
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01-03-2009, 02:06 PM	#11
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	after checking out a challenger r/t yesterday, i gotta say i ain't impressed. i finally saw that infamous boring interior (even though the seats felt really comfortable & the side bolsters fit me perfectly). for the same price, i could get an SS that's a few hundred lbs lighter, has more power, looks much better inside & out, and sounds much better! (and that's comparing it to the sound from the youtube vids on here). just my .02 __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

01-03-2009, 12:11 PM	#3
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	Hey if you like the GT500 (and can afford it), then more power to ya... That leaves more Camaros for us!!! Good Luck in your blue oval endeavors.

01-03-2009, 12:48 PM	#6
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	The GT500 is in a class of its own, wait until a Z28 pops up in years and then we can have a face off, Bow-Tie vs Blue Oval, but for now it will be the GT vs SS in which we know the SS will kill it, the 4.0 vs the 3.6DI which we would win, and to be honest, we should be comparing the SS to the Chally RT and not the SRT8 because its the more expensive top competitor (but we still would run against it), it shold be RT vs GT vs SS, and then SRT8 vs GT500 vs Z28 or ZL1. Glad to hear from a die-hard ford fan that the Camaro was an option, if you have the pocket then by all means go for the GT500, just be afriad when you see a blown out SS pull up next to you as a sleeper and blow your doors off. I like the fact that everyone has thier different interest, my brother had an 05 mustang, i have ordered my camaro, and my dad will be getting a Challenger RT in the next year, a ponycar-war in my driveway! As long as its Domestic, im happy!

01-03-2009, 12:49 PM	#7
Captain Awesome Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,746	If you can afford a GT500, then why settle for sloppy seconds when you can get a Corvette?

01-04-2009, 03:44 AM	#14
FirstLSK Dude, I love my car !!!! Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS white rally Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 811	You beat me to it DG. I think some of the "my little pony" guys forget about the old rule -- there is no replacement for displacement. The GT500 comes with a boosted 5.4 liter and a price tag of 10k over the SS. The SS comes with a 6.2 liter and for less than the delta in the price, you could easily bolt on a pro-charger and better the GT500 by 100 hp. Styling -- that's personal preference and there will never be a winning argument. That said, it will be very interesting to hear the overall non-enthusiast opinion when the 5th gens are prowling the streets.