Announcing: Forza 3-Way Exhaust Controller for NPP Exhaust

[forzasteve]

Prototyping and testing has been completed of the new Forza 3-Way Exhaust Controller for Camaro and Corvette C6 with the factory NPP (aka Dual Mode) Exhaust Option. The 3-Way controller provides three modes of operation for your NPP exhaust:
1. Normal Mode ... this is factory mode and the ECU controls the exhaust bypass valves.
2. Always Open ... forces bypass valves to open position at all times
3. Always Closed ... forces bypass valves to closed position at all times

Based on feedback I received from several members here on the Camaro5 Forum, I will be adding this controller to the Dual Mode Controller that was announced last month. I am very pleased with the way this has turned out. I think you will agree from the attached photos that the quality is outstanding. I have not yet set the price, but it will be less than $200.

I have used high quality components to assure the buyer high reliability. I designed the internal printed circuit board to be task specific. The PCB is manufactured by a company specializing in RF remote control communications. The wiring harness is constructed of automotive grade cabling. It is 18AWG stranded conductors. The cabling is water and oil resistant and rated 221 deg F.

You will see in the photos installation of the controller. The wiring harness that will be included with the kit, connects to the vacuum solenoid valve as you can see in the photos. This is true plug and play. As you can see, no wire splicing, no wire cutting. The kit includes everything you need to install. There are installation accessories included in the kit (3M Dual Lock Mounting Strips, cable ties, etc. which are not shown in the photos).

A key feature of the Forza Controller is the ability to use either the included remote control transmitter or a manual on/off switch that you could mount in the passenger compartment (e.g., center console). This is unique to Forza. No other controller offers this.

The photos you see here are of the prototype. I need to ramp up now with manufacturing and the product will be ready for sale in the second half of May.

[Edit ... This info not on the web site yet, but you can see the Dual Mode Controller there ... http://www.forzacomponenti.com/ ]

I wish to extend my gratitude to Ray here in the Phoenix, Arizona area for graciously allowing me to install this prototype in his magnificent 2015 Z28

Best regards,

Steve
Forza Componenti

[SacraMaro]

Nice!!! Looks great

[Squillo69]

http://www.palmerperformance.com/sto...products_id=82

This unit controls your NPP exhaust with the cruise control switch, and performs a myriad of other functions and monitors every parameter your car's computer monitors. And you can display different custom pages of data on you HUD, MyLink and DIC. All for $280.

You might want to re-think your pricing on this OP, if all it does is open and close NPP flaps.

[forzasteve]

Originally Posted by Squillo69

http://www.palmerperformance.com/sto...products_id=82

This unit controls your NPP exhaust with the cruise control switch, and performs a myriad of other functions and monitors every parameter your car's computer monitors. And you can display different custom pages of data on you HUD, MyLink and DIC. All for $280.

You might want to re-think your pricing on this OP, if all it does is open and close NPP flaps.

Thank you for your most informative posting. You did not mention if you have the DashLink device ... it is always a treat to have someone offer advice using hearsay data. I will take your advice under consideration.

Just for the record, I believe Palmer Performance have very good quality products and I endorse them. But, just a quick question ... if you use DashLogic to setup the cruise control switch to control the NPP exhaust, what do you then use for the cruise control? I expect you then have to go through some menu system to revert back to cruise control ... then what you do use for the NPP control? Just asking. Maybe I am wrong, but seems to me you have to choose which one you want to control.

Regards,

Steve

[JantzenOKC]

The dashlink thing sounds cool, I haven't really seen it on a Camaro. But not everyone will want that, I bet a lot of people would want this product. It sounds like it will be priced around the same as that new throttle controller and people are eating those things up. If I had NPP I would probably buy one.

[USAFS197]

I don't like gadgets that perform a myriad of functions. I prefer something dedicated to its purpose, like this Forza controller. I'll be watching this closely.

[velocity149]

DaskLink basically sets up so that when the cruise control is on, the valves are closed and you can still use cruise control. When you turn the cruise control off, the valves open. I would still like to see a product like this one tho. Standalone.

[forzasteve]

Originally Posted by velocity149

DaskLink basically sets up so that when the cruise control is on, the valves are closed and you can still use cruise control. When you turn the cruise control off, the valves open. I would still like to see a product like this one tho. Standalone.

That is better than I thought. That sounds pretty neat. My personal preference, as you and others have stated, is that I would prefer a device that is task specific and not all inclusive. From what I have seen on the DashLink ... it is an excellent OBD-II reader. I have a Wi-Fi OBD-II device that I got for like $20 or so for my cars and I use the iPhone app DashCmd ... works pretty well, but it is not nearly the function of Palmer Performance device. One thing I found with these OBD-II apps on the iPhone ... it is almost too much information. Some of the data it displays ... and I think this is true of Dash Command as well ... is info you cannot use, at least no use it while driving. But, I can fully understand why there are those who like it.

Steve

[DuskSS]

very interested would replace my M2W with this in a second.. as loud as my car is with the new engine getting the valves to stay closed when starting up early or creeping home through the neighborhood late.. every decibel helps..

[Squillo69]

Originally Posted by forzasteve

Thank you for your most informative posting. You did not mention if you have the DashLink device ... it is always a treat to have someone offer advice using hearsay data. I will take your advice under consideration.

Just for the record, I believe Palmer Performance have very good quality products and I endorse them. But, just a quick question ... if you use DashLogic to setup the cruise control switch to control the NPP exhaust, what do you then use for the cruise control? I expect you then have to go through some menu system to revert back to cruise control ... then what you do use for the NPP control? Just asking. Maybe I am wrong, but seems to me you have to choose which one you want to control.

Regards,

Steve

Yes, I have the DashLink installed in my car.

Originally Posted by velocity149

DaskLink basically sets up so that when the cruise control is on, the valves are closed and you can still use cruise control. When you turn the cruise control off, the valves open. I would still like to see a product like this one tho. Standalone.

Exactly how it works.

Originally Posted by forzasteve

That is better than I thought. That sounds pretty neat. My personal preference, as you and others have stated, is that I would prefer a device that is task specific and not all inclusive. From what I have seen on the DashLink ... it is an excellent OBD-II reader. I have a Wi-Fi OBD-II device that I got for like $20 or so for my cars and I use the iPhone app DashCmd ... works pretty well, but it is not nearly the function of Palmer Performance device. One thing I found with these OBD-II apps on the iPhone ... it is almost too much information. Some of the data it displays ... and I think this is true of Dash Command as well ... is info you cannot use, at least no use it while driving. But, I can fully understand why there are those who like it.

Steve

The displays you can set up on the DashLink are fully customizable. You have 8 pages of data that you can scroll through using the door lock button, all 8 of which can be programmed to monitor whatever you want it to monitor on the HUD, the DIC and the MyLink screen. For example, on my HUD I have speed, Real time MPGs, HP, torque and g-force, while on my MyLink I display % of fuel left (which is handy when you get to the point where the DIC just tells you "Low Fuel Level"), and on the DIC I display 0-60 time, 60 foot time, 1/8 mile time, and 1/4 mile time.

But like I said, it also monitors every parameter your car monitors, and you can setup up 8 pages of fully customizable data, and you can program to display as much or as little as you want it to.

[forzasteve]

I have to admit the DashLink sounds like a good product. I have seen or read about Palmer products, and they have a great reputation.

I do not personally want or need the function that is within DashLink. I have a simple OBD-II reader that is Wi-Fi to my iPhone and with the app on iPhone I am able to read CEL codes and the like. That is really all I need or want. Although sounds great to be able to customize the HUD with any number of functions ... for me, that is way too much information.

Obviously, for some one who wants the vast customization, then the Dash Link is good choice. My intent is to provide a reliable product that is very task specific so that the user does not have to go through a vast array of options that would be required in Dash Link to merely control the exhaust bypass valves. As explained to me, using Dash Link, you link the exhaust bypass valves to the cruise control such that when you engage cruise control, the valves are closed (ECU control) and when you disengage cruise control the valves are open. That limits the user to opening and closing the bypass valves to the cruise control. What if you wanted to close the valves and have the cruise control off? Or vice versa?

The Forza controller will allow the user to use either a small remote control transmitter or install a manual On/Off switch to control the bypass valves. The driver can quickly and easily control the valves without resorting to a menu of other options.

Best regards,

Steve

[forzasteve]

I am pleased to announce that the Forza 3-Way Controller for Camaro's with the NPP exhaust system is now available for shipping.



The 3-Way controller was developed based on feedback from this forum's users who told me that they wanted the ability to have full control of the vehicle's NPP (dual-mode) exhaust.

1. Normal Mode (stock mode, nothing changes from stock)
2. Always Open (the exhaust bypass valves are always open)
3. Always Closed (the exhaust bypass valves are always closed)

For more details and to order the 3-Way Exhaust Controller, I invite you to visit the Forza Web Site ... http://www.forzacomponenti.com/index.html

Best regards,

Steve

[BostiPB]

Steve,

Great to hear. I am planning on placing an order next week.

[KaBoom1701]

Very nice.

I know you've been working hard on this product.

Congrats.