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Old 03-09-2020, 04:17 PM   #323
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Emoto thank you for the reply and also I'm gonna bring it into the shop again next week. Im gonna run another tank of gas, but at that point I'll be way over the 200miles so they cant have any excuses. I'll check with the tech to see what fluid he used but honestly its hard not to expect a lie here and there. If all else fails I might have to bring it into another Dealership, have another tech look into it.
Don't waste your time if they give you the runaround. The applicable TSB is 18-NA-355 that prescribes the new and working 2019 fluid, try to find a good, honest service department and have them do it. It never hurts to be able to count on a dealership anyway, whether you bought your car new or used.
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:48 AM   #324
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Emoto thank you for the reply and also I'm gonna bring it into the shop again next week. Im gonna run another tank of gas, but at that point I'll be way over the 200miles so they cant have any excuses. I'll check with the tech to see what fluid he used but honestly its hard not to expect a lie here and there. If all else fails I might have to bring it into another Dealership, have another tech look into it.
You should have the part number of the fluid used listed on your work order from when they did it. Compare that with what is in the TSB that I linked before.
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:54 AM   #325
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More and more I am leaning towards getting this procedure done even if I have to pay out of pocket for it( I am not a person to lie and say it is shuddering when it isn't) if the new fluid prevents TC damage from occurring. Going to wait to April to take it into the dealer cause also need to deal with the differential groan too and need to put the summer wheels back on( I don't want the dealer to try to make the excuse of the LT's 18" wheels that are on it now is causing it).



Hate taking the car to the dealer though....
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Old 03-10-2020, 04:17 PM   #326
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More and more I am leaning towards getting this procedure done even if I have to pay out of pocket for it( I am not a person to lie and say it is shuddering when it isn't) if the new fluid prevents TC damage from occurring. Going to wait to April to take it into the dealer cause also need to deal with the differential groan too and need to put the summer wheels back on( I don't want the dealer to try to make the excuse of the LT's 18" wheels that are on it now is causing it).



Hate taking the car to the dealer though....
It's going to feel like driving a normal car again, no shake, no shudder, nice smooth low torque shifts and crazy power shifts under WOT/performance shift mode.

My dealership was super helpful when I expressed my serious concern about future damage to the torque converter, no lies or mishmash on either side... enough said. As long as cars are mass manufactured and aren't flawless, a good dealership (service department) is essential IMO. Even if one has no lack of mechanical sympathy, who would have all the specialty tools for all jobs, in this case, a revised trans flush machine.
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Old 03-10-2020, 05:52 PM   #327
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It's going to feel like driving a normal car again, no shake, no shudder, nice smooth low torque shifts and crazy power shifts under WOT/performance shift mode.

My dealership was super helpful when I expressed my serious concern about future damage to the torque converter, no lies or mishmash on either side... enough said. As long as cars are mass manufactured and aren't flawless, a good dealership (service department) is essential IMO. Even if one has no lack of mechanical sympathy, who would have all the specialty tools for all jobs, in this case, a revised trans flush machine.

Mine isn't shuddering( yet). I am considering having them change the fluid over to prevent the issue(hopefully).



But mine is having the groaning differential on the first few turns when cold.....
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Old 06-04-2020, 07:06 AM   #328
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Well, just turned over 20K & it started the shudder.

It’s not all the time, mostly around 60 as the AFM kicks in & out, but has occurred at lower speed & in between shifts.

Called my local dealer yesterday to set up an appointment for the flush.

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Old 06-04-2020, 08:11 AM   #329
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Well, just turned over 20K & it started the shudder.

It’s not all the time, mostly around 60 as the AFM kicks in & out, but has occurred at lower speed & in between shifts.

Called my local dealer yesterday to set up an appointment for the flush.

Not pleased.
I just turned 20,000 as well. Can't remember the exact mileage when A8 for the flush, but I think it was maybe 3000 miles ago. It has, so far, been perfect since then. Get the most recent version of the TSB flush with the new fluid and you should be all set.

It is just my personal opinion that you only need more than the new fluid and special flush if you have been having the shuddering for a very long time to where it has damaged things.
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Old 08-08-2020, 03:48 PM   #330
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I have a 2017, it has the shudder. I took it to the dealership several times, they flushed it, and finally after the 4th time, they replaced the TC. the shudder is still there, right around 1500-1800 rpms. The guy at the dealership took it for a drive, said he didn't feel it, filled out a work order stating the same. Said maybe drive another 400 miles, did that, took it back, Now they just told me, that I need two new wheels and all four tires are busted on the inside and they need replaced before they can go on to the next thing. Right now, i'm sitting at $2800.00 in repairs and I know I have never hit a thing with these wheels, they are the only other ones to drive the car. but I have no way of proving it. They said, they can not even l look at the trans until I get these fixed first. They tried and tried to get me to buy the parts through them, but I refused. so now i'm waiting on new wheels and tires, that I really don't think I need. But what do you do ? I told them I want all the old wheels and tires, I'm going to take them else where to be checked.
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Old 08-08-2020, 04:00 PM   #331
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Time to find a new dealer, unless your wheels really are damaged. Maybe get a second opinion?
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Old 09-30-2020, 04:27 PM   #332
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Anyone know where I can find the "Production Date" of my car? I've got a 2017 SS A8 with the shudder issue. I noticed the August 2019 version of the TSB says that "TCC shudder should have the appropriate fluid
exchange procedure completed. Diagnosis beyond the customer compliant is not
required if vehicle was built prior to production dates indicated above."

The dealership said they would have to replicate the issue, but I want to go in armed with this info saying the TSB says that is not required. But, I don't know where to find the Production Date.

FWIW, the August 2019 TSB says Models 2016 - 2019.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...63890-9999.pdf
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:00 PM   #333
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Anyone know where I can find the "Production Date" of my car? I've got a 2017 SS A8 with the shudder issue. I noticed the August 2019 version of the TSB says that "TCC shudder should have the appropriate fluid
exchange procedure completed. Diagnosis beyond the customer compliant is not
required if vehicle was built prior to production dates indicated above."

The dealership said they would have to replicate the issue, but I want to go in armed with this info saying the TSB says that is not required. But, I don't know where to find the Production Date.

FWIW, the August 2019 TSB says Models 2016 - 2019.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...63890-9999.pdf
Assuming that you have the 2017 SS that's in your details, it was definitely manufactured before Jan 2019 when the latest fluid came out and before the cutoff date in the bulletin. The manufacturing date (month/year at least) should be on the driver side door jamb sticker.
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:42 PM   #334
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Anyone know where I can find the "Production Date" of my car? I've got a 2017 SS A8 with the shudder issue. I noticed the August 2019 version of the TSB says that "TCC shudder should have the appropriate fluid
exchange procedure completed. Diagnosis beyond the customer compliant is not
required if vehicle was built prior to production dates indicated above."

The dealership said they would have to replicate the issue, but I want to go in armed with this info saying the TSB says that is not required. But, I don't know where to find the Production Date.

FWIW, the August 2019 TSB says Models 2016 - 2019.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...63890-9999.pdf

Your dealer can print your build sheet (using your VIN #).
The build sheet contains the production date.

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Old 10-01-2020, 08:53 AM   #335
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Just dropped it off at the dealership. I pointed out the details in the TSB that says only the customer complaint is needed to perform this change. They said they still need to drive the car to prove it's not the tires, etc. Said it's likely they'll do the maint though, since they are familiar with it.

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Old 10-01-2020, 09:25 AM   #336
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Just dropped it off at the dealership. I pointed out the details in the TSB that says only the customer complaint is needed to perform this change. They said they still need to drive the car to prove it's not the tires, etc. Said it's likely they'll do the maint though, since they are familiar with it.
Good luck, hope they'll take care of the problem for you
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