[CaptainRedHat]

Oh no, that's terrible...

*pulls out HPtuners and removes speed limiter*

[Jim50thSS]

I hate social democracy

[zx9rmal]

Used car values will go up.

[SteveV]

Only a matter of time before California tries this...

[arpad_m]

The day we will have to literally fight battles on many fields just to retain our freedoms is coming. Much as it pains me to watch, Europe, where I'm from originally, seems to be on its way to becoming a cesspool, and we can only hope to learn the lesson before it's too late.

Yes, lowering the speed limit to 5 mph and banning human drivers will eliminate 99.999% of traffic fatalities. Similarly, allowing zero self-expression eliminates 99.999% of bullying. The goal looks rational, often even noble, but the means is downright sinister, and the end state (pun intended) is worse than the first.

[CaptainRedHat]

Originally Posted by Frisbey

On that day,
I start driving my 67 Camaro as my daily, it doesn’t know what a computer or gps is

Yeah, but i'm sure the government would do something brilliant, like ban non-autonomous cars or require older cars to be upfitted with automation.

[Jim50thSS]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

The day we will have to literally fight battles on many fields just to retain our freedoms is coming. Much as it pains me to watch, Europe, where I'm from originally, seems to be on its way to becoming a cesspool, and we can only hope to learn the lesson before it's too late.

Yes, lowering the speed limit to 5 mph and banning human drivers will eliminate 99.999% of traffic fatalities. Similarly, allowing zero self-expression eliminates 99.999% of bullying. The goal looks rational, often even noble, but the means is downright sinister, and the end state (pun intended) is worse than the first.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by geaux_tigerss

I thought it was pretty well established that while speed correlates poorly with accident likelihood, it is a pretty good predictor of accident severity. To put it simply, while speeding doesn't cause crashes, it makes them worse.

The funny thing is, any crash over 50 MPH is almost guaranteed fatal.

Originally Posted by SteveV

Only a matter of time before California tries this...

Actually... California is doing the exact opposite: California seeks to remove speed limits entirely on sections of I-5 and CA-99

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

The ironic thing is, from what I've seen, exceeding the speed limit is rarely the cause of an accident. Someone driving under the speed limit has been found to be more of a hazard in the studies I've seen. Of course, distracted driving is a cancer. I've found more distracted drivers seem to drive a bit slower, thinking it's safer to do whatever besides watch the road as long as they drive slow.

very true.hand held cell phones should be inoperative when the car is in motion,texting doubly so.ill bet 30 % of the traffic around you is on the phone or texting at highway speeds,truly scary.

[kevint]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

The funny thing is, any crash over 50 MPH is almost guaranteed fatal.

dat M(V^2)/2

[samurai]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

The funny thing is, any crash over 50 MPH is almost guaranteed fatal.

Lol, in what year are you living? Modern cars let you survive high speed crashes pretty good. Otherwise nearly every crash on the Autobahn would end in death.

[mdhopt36]

"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
Thomas Paine

[Jim50thSS]

Originally Posted by mdhopt36

"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
Thomas Paine

great quote!

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

The day we will have to literally fight battles on many fields just to retain our freedoms is coming. Much as it pains me to watch, Europe, where I'm from originally, seems to be on its way to becoming a cesspool, and we can only hope to learn the lesson before it's too late.

Yes, lowering the speed limit to 5 mph and banning human drivers will eliminate 99.999% of traffic fatalities. Similarly, allowing zero self-expression eliminates 99.999% of bullying. The goal looks rational, often even noble, but the means is downright sinister, and the end state (pun intended) is worse than the first.

Well, it's either that or imposing real license testing, recurrent testing, making old people take tests and those that fail lose their license. The problem with cracking down on driving is "but my personal freedumbs!". Groups like the AARP would never let congress pass laws to increase the testing requirements for old people...because they're all old people, so unfortunately we get into this stalemate, because all people, old and young, want to play with their phones and the internet rather than drive. You see it at every stoplight. Again, congress won't pass a bill mandating the cell phone companies turn off the phones while driving (except for perhaps 911 function), because again, "but mah personal freedumbs!". So again, stalemate, all the while, pedestrian deaths reach a new high while drivers get worse and worse as a whole.

Put the blame where it belongs, on the people. Lawmakers are given a shitty situation where people don't want to curtail the activities causing the problem, won't relinquish any of their "freedom" to drive without serious testing and recurrent testing, and what choice do you have besides to let people die, or use technology to fix the issue with self driving cars, automatic limits, etc.?

As technology increases and gives people more power (cell phones), we find that people as a whole are unable to utilize that technology responsibly.