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IamR3D88 · 10-04-2015, 06:45 PM

I know once you get serious about racing you need to get that Dot3 out of your system before you boil it, but what about your 1st track day? From what I understand, you won't be nearly as hard on the car your first day out so I was wondering if it is something that needed to be done still. Also, Dot4 is plenty for the SS and ZL1 on these huge tracks, I just have an LFX and the track is less than 2mi/lap. Public track days are also run in 3 skill levels of 20 mins each, so there should be lots of time to cool off.

I don't know really anything about track time, so I apologize if my reasoning is flawed, but I would like some opinions from more seasoned members, or anyone who has tracked their 5th gen on Dot3.

PS.- I've heard the boiling point gets lower over time, my car was purchased new 3.5 months ago and has 4700mi, so the fluid is still pretty fresh.

Crash76 · 10-04-2015, 07:06 PM

HPDE Websites I've read say dot4 and over 50% of brake pads...

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rockrau · 10-05-2015, 04:40 PM

Motul RBF 600 is a good choice! Change it before your first track day and bleed before EVERY track day! You probably will boil your stock fluid!

IamR3D88 · 10-05-2015, 04:55 PM

I have the motul600 already, just no way to get under the car yet to reach the bleeders :/

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Synner · 10-05-2015, 06:21 PM

Dot 4 on ANY track at ANY skill level.

Length of track also has nothing to do with anything. Top speed prior to braking zones and distance to cool inbetween those major braking zones are what matters. Yes moisture will reduce the boiling point hence why they have both dry and wet boiling points listed.

Eddiefuzz · 10-05-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IamR3D88

I have the motul600 already, just no way to get under the car yet to reach the bleeders :/

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You should be able to reach the bleeder valves between the spokes on your wheels. Just roll the car forward or back slightly until you have access.

IamR3D88 · 10-05-2015, 08:04 PM

Actually thought about that with the huge 20s, just dont wanna get fluid on anything.

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SPCBA · 10-05-2015, 08:53 PM

Dot 4 was the only thing I changed for my first time on track with this car. Check your wearables, have fun, drink water and find shade.

JCunningham · 10-07-2015, 10:41 PM

Castrol SRF is the best stuff you can get and from what iv heard will last much longer than anything else.

IamR3D88 · 10-10-2015, 11:32 PM

Well, I took the advice and put in dot4. Boy am I glad I did! On top of track piece of mind, the rears both had a lot of air in them!

The car was brand new in April and has 4900mi on it now. I did not expect that at all! Especially since they were already the strongest brakes I have ever had on the street. Now I can engage antilocks at about half pedal. Hoping that means ill have plenty of extra when they start to fade at the track.

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10-04-2015, 06:45 PM	#1
IamR3D88 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 339	Dot4 for 1st track day? I know once you get serious about racing you need to get that Dot3 out of your system before you boil it, but what about your 1st track day? From what I understand, you won't be nearly as hard on the car your first day out so I was wondering if it is something that needed to be done still. Also, Dot4 is plenty for the SS and ZL1 on these huge tracks, I just have an LFX and the track is less than 2mi/lap. Public track days are also run in 3 skill levels of 20 mins each, so there should be lots of time to cool off. I don't know really anything about track time, so I apologize if my reasoning is flawed, but I would like some opinions from more seasoned members, or anyone who has tracked their 5th gen on Dot3. PS.- I've heard the boiling point gets lower over time, my car was purchased new 3.5 months ago and has 4700mi, so the fluid is still pretty fresh.

10-05-2015, 04:40 PM	#3
rockrau Drives: 2010 2ss red LS3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: perkasie pa Posts: 533	Motul RBF 600 is a good choice! Change it before your first track day and bleed before EVERY track day! You probably will boil your stock fluid! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Kit with ZL1 sway bar conversion & camber bolt kit.Lowered 1.5". 1LE tires & wheels. CAI air intake. Anvil CF rear spoiler.MGW shifter. 1 7/8" Kooks LT headers & HF cats.V-Max ported TB. Tuned.

10-05-2015, 08:53 PM	#8
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	Dot 4 was the only thing I changed for my first time on track with this car. Check your wearables, have fun, drink water and find shade. __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

10-07-2015, 10:41 PM	#9
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	Castrol SRF is the best stuff you can get and from what iv heard will last much longer than anything else. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

10-04-2015, 07:06 PM	#2
Crash76 Team 913 Drives: '14 ZL1, '15 Jeep GC, ‘22 Ram 2500 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA, Central CA Posts: 1,119	HPDE Websites I've read say dot4 and over 50% of brake pads... Also recommended by others on this forum

10-05-2015, 04:55 PM	#4
IamR3D88 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 339	I have the motul600 already, just no way to get under the car yet to reach the bleeders :/ Sent from my LGLS990 using Tapatalk

10-05-2015, 06:21 PM	#5
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	Dot 4 on ANY track at ANY skill level. Length of track also has nothing to do with anything. Top speed prior to braking zones and distance to cool inbetween those major braking zones are what matters. Yes moisture will reduce the boiling point hence why they have both dry and wet boiling points listed.

10-05-2015, 08:04 PM	#7
IamR3D88 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 339	Actually thought about that with the huge 20s, just dont wanna get fluid on anything. Sent from my LGLS990 using Tapatalk

10-10-2015, 11:32 PM	#10
IamR3D88 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 339	Well, I took the advice and put in dot4. Boy am I glad I did! On top of track piece of mind, the rears both had a lot of air in them! The car was brand new in April and has 4900mi on it now. I did not expect that at all! Especially since they were already the strongest brakes I have ever had on the street. Now I can engage antilocks at about half pedal. Hoping that means ill have plenty of extra when they start to fade at the track. Sent from my LGLS990 using Tapatalk