[Akura]

Hello,

Just a single question: is this model the one who fits better for our cars?

Dual valve 2017+ Camaro LT4 ZL1

...from the list "Select Your Vehicle".

http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/e2-x-catch-cans/

Thank you!

[kwav8r]

Yes, that's the one.

[Akura]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Yes, that's the one.

Great, thank you!

[EDFHOBBIES]

been racking my head w this can.. I think ill buy the MM PCV adapter and the all black can from Elite 50 plus 185.. hose is like less than 1 a foot.. or all black can with a Filter above it like the MM. it looks like i have a lot quick disconnect PVC stuff from wifes eforce and my old 5 gen

whose determined the difference in the cans one with a small filter on top is better over a sealed can?... And whats easier spin off the bottom or open a valve near the ground?

[kwav8r]

I went with the closed system because that's the way the OEM system works.

As for the rest of your questions, IDK.

[Elite Engineering]

EDFHOBBIES,


For the LT4 we include the PCV diverter standard with the system. And you want a can that stops most all of the compounds. We are at app 95% VS less than 30% for the MM. Also, why would you vent and break the system? The E2-X provides full time evacuation suction instead of letting pressure build and vent, and when you do not use full time evacuation those periods are when the damaging wear causing compounds settle and mix with the engine oil. You also allow a condition known as "ring flutter" when you allow pressure to build and vent, and then the power loss from venting is also a concern for most.


Watch this video to see venting in the first run to pulling suction at all times second run. Now the video is a belt driven vacuum pump, the best solution, but they wont live long on the street so we emulate the functions in a street designed system.


You also can retain the factory cleanside separator on the LT4/LT1 engines.


Ask any questions if any of this is not clear and were here to help.


And Email us direct at:


Sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com


Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com

[EDFHOBBIES]

where is the cheapest place to buy even if I wait till july 4 coupon

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by Elite Engineering

EDFHOBBIES,


For the LT4 we include the PCV diverter standard with the system. And you want a can that stops most all of the compounds. We are at app 95% VS less than 30% for the MM. Also, why would you vent and break the system? The E2-X provides full time evacuation suction instead of letting pressure build and vent, and when you do not use full time evacuation those periods are when the damaging wear causing compounds settle and mix with the engine oil. You also allow a condition known as "ring flutter" when you allow pressure to build and vent, and then the power loss from venting is also a concern for most.


Watch this video to see venting in the first run to pulling suction at all times second run. Now the video is a belt driven vacuum pump, the best solution, but they wont live long on the street so we emulate the functions in a street designed system.


You also can retain the factory cleanside separator on the LT4/LT1 engines.


Ask any questions if any of this is not clear and were here to help.


And Email us direct at:


Sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com


Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com

I'd like a system for the eforce blower on a SS and my ZL1.

I didn't know if the MM System since it has the Filter on top help with not blowing out your seals from being boosted? Could care less if I vented in the Atmosphere..

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'd like a system for the eforce blower on a SS and my ZL1.

I didn't know if the MM System since it has the Filter on top help with not blowing out your seals from being boosted? Could care less if I vented in the Atmosphere..

Its not about pollution, it's about drawing a vacuum on the crankcase to positively ventilate it (hence the term PCV - Positive Crankcase Ventilation). In either case, they prevent pressure build up in the crankcase, one just does a better job at extracting harmful vapours.

[EDFHOBBIES]

That's what I'm worried about pressure getting past rings and the crank case being pressureized and having all sorts of oil leaks like my PD setup on my 5th gen. Some run a can and valve cover breater. Figure if the the MMS had the breather to relieve pressure

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

That's what I'm worried about pressure getting past rings and the crank case being pressureized and having all sorts of oil leaks like my PD setup on my 5th gen. Some run a can and valve cover breater. Figure if the the MMS had the breather to relieve pressure

I cant say why the MM uses a breather other than some people might think it looks cool. I looked into the Elite and MM and plan on running the Elite simply due to the fact that the MM vents to atmosphere. I want a closed system as it is most effective at PCV.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Unless this car is different I thought the draft system was the best.

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Unless this car is different I thought the draft system was the best.

This car is no different in this context. PCV is PCV. Unless you just vent to atmosphere, then it is just CV

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by Ricco

This car is no different in this context. PCV is PCV. Unless you just vent to atmosphere, then it is just CV

+1

The OEM PCV vacuum pulls directly from the crankcase into the S/C. That's the puddling everyone is finding in their S/C.

Unless the MM has some sort of bypass valve on the top to vent above a certain PSI their system will not be as effective as the EE. You're not going to get the benefit of the vacuum pulling the crankcase gases from the MM if it breathes through top (external filter). To be honest though, MM's website/installation instructions do not explain well enough what each part of the can does or where the lines go (one comes from the new PCV valve into the can, the other goes overboard or into the brake booster??). Additionally, I don't think the filter on the top of the MM can is designed to let gases out - it's an oiled air filter which says to me it's designed to pull air in- that would effectively negate the vacuum that should be pulling gases out of the crankcase.

The EE has four ports. The intake port pulls directly from their diverter (replaces the OEM PCV, same as MM). Two output ports which are essentially vacuum lines that splice into the brake booster line on the side of the TB (I *think* the MM does this as well but, again, it's not clear in the instructions). The other vacuum line splices into the elbow of the air intake. The fourth port is the drain valve on the bottom of the can. There is no venting to the atmosphere so you get the benefit of having twice the vacuum pulling crankcase gases (blow by), running that through the can's filter media (basically steel wool), as it's drawn back into the intake side of the motor. The reason why I chose the EE over the MM was because of this, it more closely replicates the OEM design and function.