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Arthur Collins · 12-15-2016, 05:29 AM

I was forced to get rid of my first car. After a long battle with the dealership and warranty I decided that it wouldn't be worth money that was spent.

About 4 months ago I was with my friend going to a movie (sausage party). When we got in the car it started with a slow crank. I thought nothing of it because it was a 5 year old battery so we were cruising doing about 55mph and I felt a miss. But no check engine light or anything I thought things were fine. When we made it to the movie theater we went to the parking garage. I normally park at the very top and when we got to the second level there was an instant loss of power followed by a loud chatter. So we parked and popped the hood and saw a oil leak I was so sure that it was front cover gasket. I called my mom for the tow truck but they said that they couldn't come until the next day so we went and watched the movie. After my mom picked us up and we left my camaro. FF The next day we got it towed to the dealer and they gave us a loaner. FF 2 months They called and said that it had about 2 quarts of oil in they said that they were gonna do engine teardown. FF 3 weeks They say that Warranty won't cover it so we called the warranty and they said that the dealership denied it we filed for reconsideration and got denied again. So we ask for the teardown results they tell us that my #2 & #5 rod bearings got seized to my crankshaft. So I showed up and thought I would see my engine out of the car and torn down but that wasn't the case. The Tech that worked on my car basically told me that he tore down my motor and saw my rod bearings. I was like yeah sure you did. I took plenty of pictures and video. Because the only thing he did was remove my crank pulley, oil pan, and loosen my crankshaft cap bolts and 3 rod end caps. I also brought up the front cover gasket and he said that it was not leaking but I pointed it out and he said it was seeping not leaking. I was like its not leaking because it has no oil in it but it still had drips. FF 3 weeks They said "We only tear down to the point of failure" We paid 1600 to get the car back and it was sitting outside for over a month without a oil pan at the dealer. We had it towed to our house and my plan was set in motion.

Leo72793 · 12-15-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Collins

I was forced to get rid of my first car. After a long battle with the dealership and warranty I decided that it wouldn't be worth money that was spent.

About 4 months ago I was with my friend going to a movie (sausage party). When we got in the car it started with a slow crank. I thought nothing of it because it was a 5 year old battery so we were cruising doing about 55mph and I felt a miss. But no check engine light or anything I thought things were fine. When we made it to the movie theater we went to the parking garage. I normally park at the very top and when we got to the second level there was an instant loss of power followed by a loud chatter. So we parked and popped the hood and saw a oil leak I was so sure that it was front cover gasket. I called my mom for the tow truck but they said that they couldn't come until the next day so we went and watched the movie. After my mom picked us up and we left my camaro. FF The next day we got it towed to the dealer and they gave us a loaner. FF 2 months They called and said that it had about 2 quarts of oil in they said that they were gonna do engine teardown. FF 3 weeks They say that Warranty won't cover it so we called the warranty and they said that the dealership denied it we filed for reconsideration and got denied again. So we ask for the teardown results they tell us that my #2 & #5 rod bearings got seized to my crankshaft. So I showed up and thought I would see my engine out of the car and torn down but that wasn't the case. The Tech that worked on my car basically told me that he tore down my motor and saw my rod bearings. I was like yeah sure you did. I took plenty of pictures and video. Because the only thing he did was remove my crank pulley, oil pan, and loosen my crankshaft cap bolts and 3 rod end caps. I also brought up the front cover gasket and he said that it was not leaking but I pointed it out and he said it was seeping not leaking. I was like its not leaking because it has no oil in it but it still had drips. FF 3 weeks They said "We only tear down to the point of failure" We paid 1600 to get the car back and it was sitting outside for over a month without a oil pan at the dealer. We had it towed to our house and my plan was set in motion.

Sad to hear. I had a miss a while ago but nothing else. P0008 came up once. im almost at an SS money saved. Just hoping to get to that point before this happens to me.

W4rMach1ne · 12-15-2016, 03:24 PM

I had to ditch my Camaro when the head gasket started to leak and bought a Z71 Colorado. I wasn't going to spend $2000 to fix an engine that is known to fail like this. The problem is GM backed this engine with known problems. I have Never been happier driving my Colorado knowing it is not a ticking time bomb.

Arthur Collins · 12-21-2016, 08:21 AM

At first they said that my car lost 4 quarts of oil and that it had no leaks whatsoever

I went to the dealer and took these pics

Arthur Collins · 12-21-2016, 08:33 AM

I got it towed to my house and got down to business. BTW had to pay 1300 bucks to get it back in that condition.

Leo72793 · 12-21-2016, 08:39 AM

if parting out i want the engine cover and rear diffuser haha. need to return to stock

Arthur Collins · 12-21-2016, 09:52 AM

https://youtu.be/EXDxeGK5eB8

Arthur Collins · 12-21-2016, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo72793

if parting out i want the engine cover and rear diffuser haha. need to return to stock

LOL I was gonna part it out but its gone now

W4rMach1ne · 12-21-2016, 11:13 AM

GM let us down with all the fails in the LLT engine. I was sad to let mine go, but i couldn't keep dumping money in the catastrophe design with so many known issues. There is a reason they switched to the LFX. Sad GM will not stand behind their product the LLT engine.

Arthur Collins · 12-21-2016, 08:37 PM

Progression

Soybeanrice · 12-21-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo72793

Sad to hear. I had a miss a while ago but nothing else. P0008 came up once. im almost at an SS money saved. Just hoping to get to that point before this happens to me.

P0008 is usually a timing chain thing... unless they addressed it after the LY7

Soybeanrice · 12-21-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by W4rMach1ne

I had to ditch my Camaro when the head gasket started to leak and bought a Z71 Colorado. I wasn't going to spend $2000 to fix an engine that is known to fail like this. The problem is GM backed this engine with known problems. I have Never been happier driving my Colorado knowing it is not a ticking time bomb.

HFV6 engines arent bad... just require a little more maintenance.

Soybeanrice · 12-21-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Collins

Progression

Cool to see youre having "fun" with your car. I'll be doing a timing chain on an LY7 next week.

How did you get the oil pan off with the engine in the car? Isnt the cross member in the way?

Leo72793 · 12-21-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Collins

LOL I was gonna part it out but its gone now

Dang. well i got mods for sale :P

12-15-2016, 05:29 AM	#1
Arthur Collins Police Magnet No more V6 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS To 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 58	Goodbye LLT I was forced to get rid of my first car. After a long battle with the dealership and warranty I decided that it wouldn't be worth money that was spent. About 4 months ago I was with my friend going to a movie (sausage party). When we got in the car it started with a slow crank. I thought nothing of it because it was a 5 year old battery so we were cruising doing about 55mph and I felt a miss. But no check engine light or anything I thought things were fine. When we made it to the movie theater we went to the parking garage. I normally park at the very top and when we got to the second level there was an instant loss of power followed by a loud chatter. So we parked and popped the hood and saw a oil leak I was so sure that it was front cover gasket. I called my mom for the tow truck but they said that they couldn't come until the next day so we went and watched the movie. After my mom picked us up and we left my camaro. FF The next day we got it towed to the dealer and they gave us a loaner. FF 2 months They called and said that it had about 2 quarts of oil in they said that they were gonna do engine teardown. FF 3 weeks They say that Warranty won't cover it so we called the warranty and they said that the dealership denied it we filed for reconsideration and got denied again. So we ask for the teardown results they tell us that my #2 & #5 rod bearings got seized to my crankshaft. So I showed up and thought I would see my engine out of the car and torn down but that wasn't the case. The Tech that worked on my car basically told me that he tore down my motor and saw my rod bearings. I was like yeah sure you did. I took plenty of pictures and video. Because the only thing he did was remove my crank pulley, oil pan, and loosen my crankshaft cap bolts and 3 rod end caps. I also brought up the front cover gasket and he said that it was not leaking but I pointed it out and he said it was seeping not leaking. I was like its not leaking because it has no oil in it but it still had drips. FF 3 weeks They said "We only tear down to the point of failure" We paid 1600 to get the car back and it was sitting outside for over a month without a oil pan at the dealer. We had it towed to our house and my plan was set in motion.

12-21-2016, 08:21 AM	#4
Arthur Collins Police Magnet No more V6 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS To 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 58	At first they said that my car lost 4 quarts of oil and that it had no leaks whatsoever I went to the dealer and took these pics Attached Images

12-21-2016, 08:37 PM	#10
Arthur Collins Police Magnet No more V6 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS To 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 58	Progression Attached Images

12-15-2016, 03:24 PM	#3
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	I had to ditch my Camaro when the head gasket started to leak and bought a Z71 Colorado. I wasn't going to spend $2000 to fix an engine that is known to fail like this. The problem is GM backed this engine with known problems. I have Never been happier driving my Colorado knowing it is not a ticking time bomb.

12-21-2016, 08:33 AM	#5
Arthur Collins Police Magnet No more V6 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS To 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 58	I got it towed to my house and got down to business. BTW had to pay 1300 bucks to get it back in that condition. Attached Images

12-21-2016, 08:39 AM	#6
Leo72793 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,191	if parting out i want the engine cover and rear diffuser haha. need to return to stock

12-21-2016, 09:52 AM	#7
Arthur Collins Police Magnet No more V6 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS To 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 58	https://youtu.be/EXDxeGK5eB8

12-21-2016, 11:13 AM	#9
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	GM let us down with all the fails in the LLT engine. I was sad to let mine go, but i couldn't keep dumping money in the catastrophe design with so many known issues. There is a reason they switched to the LFX. Sad GM will not stand behind their product the LLT engine.