[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by Sales @ CAI Inc

Here are some pics of the new Elite Carbon Series system for the 2017+ Camaro ZL1

Is there an option for a non-oiled (dry) filter element?

[k20attack]

How does the carbon fiber hold up when the ambient temperature is high and the engine bay temp is even higher? Does it deform in any way?

[Victoryred1le]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Is there an option for a non-oiled (dry) filter element?

+1!!! The oiled filter is so ugly.

[Ray_Dogg]

It will be interesting to see what the process is switching back to factory for dealer visits.

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by Ray_Dogg

It will be interesting to see what the process is switching back to factory for dealer visits.

Most dealerships don't care about bolt ons, i.e. a CAI. You can always ask ahead of time if they're good with it before you do it but it shouldn't be a big deal.

[SoCal Racer]

Originally Posted by Sales @ CAI Inc

Hello Everyone! A big Thank You to HyperBlueX2 for working with us on the development of this product. I had the opportunity to spend a lot time with him and he is a very knowledgeable car guy and a tremendous Camaro enthusiast. The MSRP for the Elite Carbon Series system for the 2017+ Camaro ZL1 has been set at $789.95. Thank you to everyone for your interest.

That price seems competitive/reasonable with the K&N Carbon, if you consider how much more Carbon structure there is. In looking at the photos though (beautiful btw), I am a little concerned about any flexibility as it seems to be...all...Carbon fiber. Any flex/item stress/integrity issues in testing? Just curious because other kits tend to have more soft tubing, but this appears to be solid carbon from the throttle body to the carbon filter box. Also, where is the opening to access the filter? Other models I can see screws on top, not on this one...which is a good thing, but I am wondering how to access it for cleanings and installation, etc. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Ray_Dogg

It will be interesting to see what the process is switching back to factory for dealer visits.

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Most dealerships don't care about bolt ons, i.e. a CAI. You can always ask ahead of time if they're good with it before you do it but it shouldn't be a big deal.

In CA, dealers are very strict...you have to "know someone" to get away with even a CAI most of the time. If a dealer employee gets caught ignoring the not only the guidelines of the warranty, not to mention the California Emissions law (as even a basic CAI is illegal in CA), that can cost the dealer plenty, not to mention the employee's job...most would like to keep their job in this bad economy, I would think.

I am sure it is different in the other 49 states (lucky you), but here you need to find someone willing to take that risk as everything on cars today is computerized and the computers will know you modified your car, even if you put it back to stock...the computer knows...and when the dealer plugs into your car, they will too.

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by SoCal Racer

In CA, dealers are very strict...you have to "know someone" to get away with even a CAI most of the time. If a dealer employee gets caught ignoring the not only the guidelines of the warranty, not to mention the California Emissions law (as even a basic CAI is illegal in CA), that can cost the dealer plenty, not to mention the employee's job...most would like to keep their job in this bad economy, I would think.

I am sure it is different in the other 49 states (lucky you), but here you need to find someone willing to take that risk as everything on cars today is computerized and the computers will know you modified your car, even if you put it back to stock...the computer knows...and when the dealer plugs into your car, they will too.

This is why I will never live in Nazifornia....

[IneedAZ]

I know its kinda early to ask this, but any thoughts on an upgraded tube size going to be available for those that up the TB size? I may up mine when i see Chevy Performance start to offer the parts that they use on their test car on the website.

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by SoCal Racer

In CA, dealers are very strict...you have to "know someone" to get away with even a CAI most of the time. If a dealer employee gets caught ignoring the not only the guidelines of the warranty, not to mention the California Emissions law (as even a basic CAI is illegal in CA), that can cost the dealer plenty, not to mention the employee's job...most would like to keep their job in this bad economy, I would think.

I am sure it is different in the other 49 states (lucky you), but here you need to find someone willing to take that risk as everything on cars today is computerized and the computers will know you modified your car, even if you put it back to stock...the computer knows...and when the dealer plugs into your car, they will too.

Was not aware that CA was THAT strict with vehicle emissions, what a PITA.

[SoCal Racer]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

This is why I will never live in Nazifornia....

The positives of CA are obvious, but he negatives people don't talk about much...strict car laws...laws in general (some can be good I guess), plus higher car prices in part to emissions...equipment and testing...higher taxes of all kinds...higher cost of living...higher cost of housing (2...3...4x as much as anywhere else, except maybe Manhattan? maybe even in some cases) ....

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Was not aware that CA was THAT strict with vehicle emissions, what a PITA.

It did not used to be like that, but they are cracking down in recent years. Fines and penalties are high. Pretty much every major mail order performance company will not even ship you performance parts if you live in California...Jegs, Summit, etc. Even if you wanted use it for a racing application only...nope. All dealers, not just Chevrolet, are looking for a reason to void your warranty. Those warranties are worth so much money, they would gain so much by being able to void as many as they could. Every time any of us uses our warranties...GM loses money...the dealer loses money (from what I understand, they do not get fully compensated for warranty work vs non-warranty work).

There are laws in line to eliminate the combustion engine completely from the new car market by 2025-30...and the threat is very real :(

[BMWM.D.]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Was not aware that CA was THAT strict with vehicle emissions, what a PITA.

Based on my experience as a Technician here in California over the last 16 years, I’d say that isn’t really true. Unless you bring your car to the dealer for a performance/driveability issue (check engine light, etc.) or a major issue like a damaged engine, nobody at the dealership level cares about modifications. It’s not my responsibility or duty to report a modified vehicle to anyone. It’s totally irrelevant unless the modification caused the problem.

The only situation where I could see there being some truth to this would involve smog testing. Here, the Technician’s ass (and smog license) could be on the line if he passes a car with non-CARB approved parts. A smog Tech is legally required to check for these things though. And for what it’s worth, a new car doesn’t require ANY smog testing or inspections for something like 7 years. Plenty of time for fun.

I laugh whenever I read comments like this about California. Are there some misguided, bullshit laws in place? Sure, but they really don’t prevent me from doing what I want. They’re certainly not enough to make me move or give up hotrodding. This place is paradise otherwise, so if I need to jump through a few hoops when it comes to car mods, so be it.

[Mize442]

Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

Based on my experience as a Technician here in California over the last 16 years, I’d say that isn’t really true. Unless you bring your car to the dealer for a performance/driveability issue (check engine light, etc.) or a major issue like a damaged engine, nobody at the dealership level cares about modifications. It’s not my responsibility or duty to report a modified vehicle to anyone. It’s totally irrelevant unless the modification caused the problem.

The only situation where I could see there being some truth to this would involve smog testing. Here, the Technician’s ass (and smog license) could be on the line if he passes a car with non-CARB approved parts. A smog Tech is legally required to check for these things though. And for what it’s worth, a new car doesn’t require ANY smog testing or inspections for something like 7 years. Plenty of time for fun.

I laugh whenever I read comments like this about California. Are there some misguided, bullshit laws in place? Sure, but they really don’t prevent me from doing what I want. They’re certainly not enough to make me move or give up hotrodding. This place is paradise otherwise, so if I need to jump through a few hoops when it comes to car mods, so be it.

I agree

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by k20attack

How does the carbon fiber hold up when the ambient temperature is high and the engine bay temp is even higher? Does it deform in any way?

To you and anyone reading this, please do not over-tighten the clamps when installing this. If you do then you will have troubles. CF is not as forgiving as other materials used for intakes. I doubt heat will be an issue since it is a closed system and since CF does a good job expelling heat.

[nicktechla]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

This is why I will never live in Nazifornia....

but we get to drive our cars in amazing weather, on amazing roads 364 days a year