03-14-2024, 06:44 PM | #15 |
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oh yea bro, break those all the time, loose, in half, its wild.
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I originally ran the solid cradle bushings, until I had the Peddars coilovers installed, and we used the Urethane bushings… We did note “hot spots” on the solid bushings after removing them. I honestly didn’t notice any driving difference between the two… I never broke an axle nor rubbed a driveshaft… My car was lowered an inch, and this never created any issues for me, though I’ve heard others had different experiences… I believe lowering the car had an impact on those failures, but I have no personal proof one way or the other… . Back to the interesting choice of parts, and maybe moto-mojo has an opinion, outside of the sales brochures… I don’t remember specifically which was which, though I think DSS uses cut splines and G-Force used rolled splines. Way back when there was all manner of discussion about which was better… (cut or rolled) I broke up many of the discussions with the simple statement, of how fortunate we were to have two great companies with stellar customer service, supporting this site and the Camaro performance market… Having said all that, I chose DSS 9”, One piece aluminum DSS shaft, Strange Center Section, a Wave-trac diff, DSS axles (1400 hp) and rolled it up with a Street Slayer Clutch, from Thomas Hendrix (the triple carbon initially, and graduated to the quad carbon piece). To that point, we still had the guibo at the Trans…if memory serves… The final iteration ended up with 1350 yokes at both ends of a 4” one piece shaft built by Thrash in San Antonio… We needed it in a hurry… Got their measurement sheet, verified a couple items, took them the sheet, discussed the tight fit, (see above limiting the cradle movement) and they had my balanced 4” one piece shaft the next day… We had an event and couldn’t wait… You’re running a DSS shaft, and the G-force axles… Are you on the stock SS pumpkin, or maybe a ZL1 diff… Quote:
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I twisted a 300M output shaft… (Dead hook on slicks at 6000 rpm at Indy) builder of said shaft said it couldn’t be twisted… I got pictures… He wanted the whole trans back…He even paid return shipping after seeing the output shaft image…His autopsy was a mess to say the least… Not only was the output shaft twisted, the main shaft and various parts inside the trans were so twisted , he couldn’t get the forged gears off the shafts, (I went 200+ mph a few months later with that same trans, before the noted shaft twist, only pulling it out after hurting the motor at the mile, which was when we found the twisted shaft) so I had to purchase an entire new trans. All the gears were forged except 6th and reverse… Shafts, all forged… etc etc etc… Never hurt that one…
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03-18-2024, 05:48 AM | #17 |
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Great info SSE 4 2SS! Yes, I am running the stock housing with an LPW rear cover. Andrew did advise me that I would most likely be fine with the stock driveshaft & axles with the auto. I do have a nice stockpile of oem parts as well.
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03-19-2024, 04:55 AM | #19 | |
Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020
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03-19-2024, 02:29 PM | #20 |
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~~ 1300+ rwhp on boost, call it 1700 on spray, and it only sprayed at WOT in second, third…. Obviously I wasn’t at full HP sitting on the line but it was a good bit…
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03-19-2024, 02:33 PM | #21 |
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Holy crap that's a lot of power!
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03-19-2024, 04:06 PM | #22 |
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That was the original aftermarket engine setup… and an expensive learning curve… ERL 427 ci short block, LS3 heads… then LSA heads, 67/66 Turbos up to 18 lbs of boost… We finally gave it up and had ERL build us a custom purpose built motor…
LS Aluminum short block, AllPro LSW 12°-4 heads, Jesel valve train… 225 lb/hr injectors, Ross pistons, billet everything, (crank, rods) tool steel pushrods, and twin 76/75 turbos, pushing up to 35 lbs of boost, at 9000 rpm… we never determined the actual HP due to tire spin on the dyno… but at 27 lbs, and only 8100 rpm, we were making 2000 rwhp… So we guess at 35 lbs and close to the shift point of 9k rpm, we were somewhere close to 2400-2500… maybe more, maybe less… Crazy part… 99 mph in first gear… shift into 5th at 220 plus… I did Standing Mile racing….
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03-19-2024, 11:49 PM | #24 |
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I see you’re in Austin, I used to live in Kyle, and have a bunch of friends and acquaintances in the Austin area. I used to attend the gatherings held at Cabelas in Buda… That car was a heap of fun… I’m reading your build thread now… I haven’t commented in mine for a while…
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OP, I apologize for the thread jack…
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Me: “Hey Skunk, you getting out of my car…” Skunk: “Not til my damned knees stop shaking.”
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It was a hoot while it lasted… I really enjoyed the build thread banter…and I still randomly pick a page and start reading… Who’ld thunk over a million views on a build thread… The Mile is this weekend as a matter of fact… No plans to visit this weekend, but probably in Oct….
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If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough... |
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