Cam install

2drstunner · 10-21-2016, 10:05 AM

I just read on a different site that a cam install cannot be done without removing the engine. Is that correct?

LibertyHill · 10-21-2016, 11:05 AM

I'm iffy on this but I believe it was specifically oil pan removal that was required?

pinoyscorpion951 · 10-21-2016, 11:59 AM

I believe it's because the LT1 oil pan and timing cover does not utilize gaskets like the the LS engines. RTV silicone sealant is used. The dry-sump pan needs to be dropped to remove the cam phaser gear and timing chain. It's going to be expensive to drop a cam in these things.

2drstunner · 10-22-2016, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pinoyscorpion951

I believe it's because the LT1 oil pan and timing cover does not utilize gaskets like the the LS engines. RTV silicone sealant is used. The dry-sump pan needs to be dropped to remove the cam phaser gear and timing chain. It's going to be expensive to drop a cam in these things.

Well that sucks!

oldman · 10-22-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2drstunner

Well that sucks!

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...-lt1-cam-swap/

The pump sits in front of the timing gear, the Camaro is wet sump. It is not crazy hard, but yep harder than a LS engine which was candy.

EXSSIVE · 10-22-2016, 09:29 AM

You could just lift the wngine using a sling or hoist to gain the required clearance instead of completely removing it.

jdasnt3 · 10-22-2016, 12:18 PM

Pricing on cam installs in the LT1 has been discussed before, but if you are going to have a shop do this install, it might make more sense to go with a supercharger for the money and amount of power you'd get.

If you do the install yourself (because you have the tools, engine hoist, and garage), cam is still a good option. It isn't a one day, drink some beers with your buddies job anymore.

LibertyHill · 10-22-2016, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jdasnt3

Pricing on cam installs in the LT1 has been discussed before, but if you are going to have a shop do this install, it might make more sense to go with a supercharger for the money and amount of power you'd get.

This is the largest part of the reason I went SC. A bigger cam will wield (That was a typo of yield but I like it!) more max HP but always at the expense of low-end torque, and always requiring all the other goodies needed to further improve flow NA and take full advantage. Once you go FI none of those flow issues matter near as much and it can become a one-mod-and-done operation with no sacrifice in driveability.

But that lopey idle sure is nice...

mariojmoe · 10-22-2016, 07:53 PM

no sir you don't have to remove the engine for cam install on lt1 lol. The shop that is doing mine already did 2 so far without dropping the engine

Fast6.3 · 10-27-2016, 10:21 PM

Dont know if Southwest speed is on here he was a vendor on c5 but he has done several Ill see if Incan get him to chime in

dennis@hixsonnet.com · 09-13-2017, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoyscorpion951

I believe it's because the LT1 oil pan and timing cover does not utilize gaskets like the the LS engines. RTV silicone sealant is used. The dry-sump pan needs to be dropped to remove the cam phaser gear and timing chain. It's going to be expensive to drop a cam in these things.

Getting a new cam in my camaro.... labor is twice the amount of parts. But it'll be fun!

BradfordCamaro · 09-13-2017, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis@hixsonnet.com

Getting a new cam in my camaro.... labor is twice the amount of parts. But it'll be fun!

Well. Depends what parts.

I paid double the amount for parts than I did labor. Haha

DFW1LE · 09-13-2017, 04:12 PM

There are pluses and minuses with either approach, but yes, a cam can be installed without pulling the engine, although pulling out the radiator and dropping/resealing the pan can be a challenge.

PRAY · 09-13-2017, 04:25 PM

My cam job will be starting on Saturday. I think I am just going to pull the motor. But mine is going to be a bit involved so I it is best for me to pull it. I don't plan on losing any torque, anywhere. I have a buddy that has done a bunch of cam swaps and he has decided to pull the motors. He did it both ways and according to him, it is just faster.

10-21-2016, 10:05 AM	#1
2drstunner Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Stratford nj Posts: 140	Cam install I just read on a different site that a cam install cannot be done without removing the engine. Is that correct?

10-21-2016, 11:05 AM	#2
LibertyHill Drives: 16 2SS 6MT NPP MRC / 15 K1300S Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NW of Austin Posts: 1,034	I'm iffy on this but I believe it was specifically oil pan removal that was required? __________________ Rohana RFX-5 10/11, M/T 275/305, Eibachs, Hellwigs, Hurst SS, DMS LT4 SC 596HP/589TQ, DMS Low-side, Kooks 2LTs, MBRP Race, Rotofab, MMS CC

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jdasnt3 Drives: 18 Silverado 1500 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 1,721	Pricing on cam installs in the LT1 has been discussed before, but if you are going to have a shop do this install, it might make more sense to go with a supercharger for the money and amount of power you'd get. If you do the install yourself (because you have the tools, engine hoist, and garage), cam is still a good option. It isn't a one day, drink some beers with your buddies job anymore. __________________ 16 Red Hot 2SS A8: NPP, CAI Cold air, Ported TB, Fasterproms Ported intake, E85 flex, Formatto tuned. 11.80@118 with 1.92 60' (600-700 DA) on stock run flats.

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Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	Dont know if Southwest speed is on here he was a vendor on c5 but he has done several Ill see if Incan get him to chime in __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats

09-13-2017, 04:25 PM	#14
PRAY Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sanford NC Posts: 2,766	My cam job will be starting on Saturday. I think I am just going to pull the motor. But mine is going to be a bit involved so I it is best for me to pull it. I don't plan on losing any torque, anywhere. I have a buddy that has done a bunch of cam swaps and he has decided to pull the motors. He did it both ways and according to him, it is just faster. __________________ 2016 2SS. H/C SBE 1.37 60ft, 6.36@109.49, 9.97@136+. Nuff Said.

10-21-2016, 11:59 AM	#3
pinoyscorpion951 Drives: 2016 Bright Yellow 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, California Posts: 610	I believe it's because the LT1 oil pan and timing cover does not utilize gaskets like the the LS engines. RTV silicone sealant is used. The dry-sump pan needs to be dropped to remove the cam phaser gear and timing chain. It's going to be expensive to drop a cam in these things.

10-22-2016, 09:29 AM	#6
EXSSIVE Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 181	You could just lift the wngine using a sling or hoist to gain the required clearance instead of completely removing it.

10-22-2016, 07:53 PM	#9
mariojmoe Account Suspended Drives: C7 Z06 manual, 18 Zl1 manual, etc Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Spring Texas Posts: 1,488	no sir you don't have to remove the engine for cam install on lt1 lol. The shop that is doing mine already did 2 so far without dropping the engine

09-13-2017, 04:12 PM	#13
DFW1LE Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Mosiac Black Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,132	There are pluses and minuses with either approach, but yes, a cam can be installed without pulling the engine, although pulling out the radiator and dropping/resealing the pan can be a challenge.

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