FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 578

BluinSC · 01-25-2022, 10:20 PM

https://www.costcoauto.com/new_cars/

Looks like Costco has a build tool and pricing for the new refreshed 1500 trucks on their website. No idea if the option MSRP pricing is accurate, but its at least fun to play around with something finally and get an idea on what everything may cost.

Maybe it means the GM tool is close?

BluinSC · 01-26-2022, 02:03 AM

https://youtu.be/pj7t5mWfnvs
Fully optioned ZR2 is 74k (base of 66k). At that price I'd rather get an AT4x and it least get massaging seats.

FarmerFran · 01-26-2022, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BluinSC

https://youtu.be/pj7t5mWfnvs
Fully optioned ZR2 is 74k (base of 66k). At that price I'd rather get an AT4x and it least get massaging seats.

Freaking crazy how expensive trucks can get.

lbls1 · 01-26-2022, 09:05 AM

^Yea its essentially a pick up (a well optioned one), yet GM wants a kidney for it.

shaffe · 01-26-2022, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Freaking crazy how expensive trucks can get.

It's insane how fast trucks get expensive. I know there is a ton more tech and safety and capability blah blah blah but it's insanity. But people are paying it so guess keep pumping them out

NW-99SS · 01-26-2022, 09:53 AM

I paid 60K for my 2017 Denali 1500 Ultimate - 6.2 - CDN funds.

I can't even imagine buying a truck now.

FarmerFran · 01-26-2022, 10:12 AM

My 2020 Limited stickered 72. I got it before the bubble amd got it for a great price. Would not even touch it now.

Back on topic, i hope gm knows what they are doing. 7 billion is a lot of $$ and i perfer not to bail them out again

snizzle · 01-26-2022, 12:17 PM

GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.

FarmerFran · 01-26-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.

Wait she said let the market decide? So a 7 billion dollar gamble

Martinjlm · 01-26-2022, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.

You do realize that these particular credits don’t go into the automakers’ pockets, right? They go to the vehicle buyer. Where it benefits GM (and Tesla, since they also are out of credits) is it makes the vehicle appear several thousand dollars less expensive. When GM and Tesla ran out of credits, they reduced the prices on their EVs to be close to what the net price to the buyer would have been if the incentives were still in place.

snizzle · 01-26-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

You do realize that these particular credits don’t go into the automakers’ pockets, right? They go to the vehicle buyer. Where it benefits GM (and Tesla, since they also are out of credits) is it makes the vehicle appear several thousand dollars less expensive. When GM and Tesla ran out of credits, they reduced the prices on their EVs to be close to what the net price to the buyer would have been if the incentives were still in place.

Yes, of course (although it's murky). Lease it, it goes to lessor and only potentially lower payments then. Also you have to have a tax liability to claim it. How many folks actually get the $7,500 even though it's widely quoted as a sure thing. So it depends.

What's the solution to be on equal footing from an automakers perspective? Telsa: get rid of all subsidies (of course after benefiting from them in the past). GM: government intervention to apply subsidies to all equally forever.

Bhobbs · 01-26-2022, 07:52 PM

The fact you have to pay $1,150 for rock sliders on the Silverado ZR2 is an absolute joke. GM really doesn’t care for enthusiasts.

snizzle · 01-27-2022, 06:40 AM

Yeah, I thought we were told the price was high because it was high content with little options available if any.

GearheadSS · 01-27-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

Yeah, I thought we were told the price was high because it was high content with little options available if any.

There aren't really a lot of factory options available though. The price is high because it has the same equipment as LTZ trim. I'm honestly surprised the MSRP wasn't higher.

It's $10k higher than a loaded LT Trail Boss with a lot fewer amenities.

01-26-2022, 09:05 AM	#8082
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,021	^Yea its essentially a pick up (a well optioned one), yet GM wants a kidney for it. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

01-26-2022, 09:53 AM	#8084
NW-99SS Drives: 1999 Camaro SS M6 - SBE LS1 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,166	I paid 60K for my 2017 Denali 1500 Ultimate - 6.2 - CDN funds. I can't even imagine buying a truck now. __________________ 1999 Camaro SS 6M - SBE LS1 1963 Corvette GrandSport - ZZ502 4M 2017 Denali 1500 6.2 2017 Yukon Denali 6.2

01-26-2022, 10:12 AM	#8085
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,031	My 2020 Limited stickered 72. I got it before the bubble amd got it for a great price. Would not even touch it now. Back on topic, i hope gm knows what they are doing. 7 billion is a lot of $$ and i perfer not to bail them out again __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 Vert TR-6060 Sharkskin "Sharky" Firecracker Red Wrangler Willys, 3.6L eTorque, 850RE 8 speed automatic, 25W Willys package, Technology Group, Convenience Group (aka $600 garage door opener), Cold weather Group, Trailer Tow and HD electric group with AUX switches, 3 piece black freedom top.

01-26-2022, 12:17 PM	#8086
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,414	GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

01-26-2022, 07:52 PM	#8090
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	The fact you have to pay $1,150 for rock sliders on the Silverado ZR2 is an absolute joke. GM really doesn’t care for enthusiasts. __________________

01-25-2022, 10:20 PM	#8079
BluinSC Drives: BVM 1SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Columbia-Sumter- Florence, SC Posts: 460	https://www.costcoauto.com/new_cars/ Looks like Costco has a build tool and pricing for the new refreshed 1500 trucks on their website. No idea if the option MSRP pricing is accurate, but its at least fun to play around with something finally and get an idea on what everything may cost. Maybe it means the GM tool is close?

01-26-2022, 02:03 AM	#8080
BluinSC Drives: BVM 1SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Columbia-Sumter- Florence, SC Posts: 460	https://youtu.be/pj7t5mWfnvs Fully optioned ZR2 is 74k (base of 66k). At that price I'd rather get an AT4x and it least get massaging seats.

01-27-2022, 06:40 AM	#8091
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,414	Yeah, I thought we were told the price was high because it was high content with little options available if any. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost