FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge

[FarmerFran]

My issue is they keep saying "for the CAMPGROUND and JOB SITE!!!" you realize those batteries die when you use them, right? It is not like you just dump some more fuel in the generator.

And most Campsites have RV power. Why connect the RV to the truck. If you are talking off grid, then your better have juice to get back to a charger.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

How long do they charge to get that range back?

I imagine it would change "on the fly" with all the onboard sensors and computers adjusting available range accounting for load, ambient temp and demand on batteries.

So, as in you could start out with 100% charge, load it up with you and a 1000lbs, and your range display on the dash would read the rated 300 miles. Then after rolling down the road for, say 20 miles it reads 280 miles, you unload the payload, and after you start down the road again, onboard computers that constantly calculate available range would go from 280 up to say 400.

It's like watching the "live" mpg displays on modern ICE vehicles. My MKZ and my Jeep when viewed "live" fluctuate constantly, depending on hills, headwinds, engine load, etc.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

I imagine it would change "on the fly" with all the onboard sensors and computers adjusting available range accounting for load, ambient temp and demand on batteries.

So, as in you could start out with 100% charge, load it up with you and a 1000lbs, and your range display on the dash would read the rated 300 miles. Then after rolling down the road for, say 20 miles it reads 280 miles, you unload the payload, and after you start down the road again, onboard computers that constantly calculate available range would go from 280 up to say 400.

It's like watching the "live" mpg displays on modern ICE vehicles. My MKZ and my Jeep when viewed "live" fluctuate constantly, depending on hills, headwinds, engine load, etc.

I get that, I guess I did ask the correct question. I am mixing towing with payload and that is my fault - they are 2 TOTALLY different things when accounting for MPG or EPM (electrons per mile).

For me I tow and have payload so I am maxed out in terms of MPG negatives.

ICE Truck - 320 mile range towing, with 300 in mind to stop and get fuel for maybe 15 minutes including grabbing lunch and a piss to get 320 more miles. Not towing, 600+ on V8 Gasser.

EV Truck gets???


I am onboard - do not get me wrong, but when I am hauling, going on vacation and/or leaving work... the last damn thing I want to do is stop for 40+ minutes to "charge"

EVs are Metro vehicles (ATM)

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I am onboard - do not get me wrong, but when I am hauling, going on vacation and/or leaving work... the last damn thing I want to do is stop for 40+ minutes to "charge"

EVs are Metro vehicles (ATM)

Towing as a general matter, 50% loss of EV range, and good luck finding a spot you can pull into with a trailer. We've got a ways to go before this makes sense for folks like you.

Even in the city, folks live in apartments and condos with no option to plugin at home at night. Are dense metropolitan areas fringe cases too?

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I get that, I guess I did ask the correct question. I am mixing towing with payload and that is my fault - they are 2 TOTALLY different things when accounting for MPG or EPM (electrons per mile).

For me I tow and have payload so I am maxed out in terms of MPG negatives.

ICE Truck - 320 mile range towing, with 300 in mind to stop and get fuel for maybe 15 minutes including grabbing lunch and a piss to get 320 more miles. Not towing, 600+ on V8 Gasser.

EV Truck gets???


I am onboard - do not get me wrong, but when I am hauling, going on vacation and/or leaving work... the last damn thing I want to do is stop for 40+ minutes to "charge"

EVs are Metro vehicles (ATM)

This is where the F150 Hybrid shines - off the grid camping. Battery low - truck starts the engine and charges it up again.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

This is where the F150 Hybrid shines - off the grid camping. Battery low - truck starts the engine and charges it up again.

GM really missed the boat not using Voltec as a stop gap measure in a hybrid scenario.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

This is where the F150 Hybrid shines - off the grid camping. Battery low - truck starts the engine and charges it up again.

Hybrid maybe, electric not so much

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

This is where the F150 Hybrid shines - off the grid camping. Battery low - truck starts the engine and charges it up again.

I think this was one of the better executions but it really could’ve used a larger battery and a plug in. It really feels more like the right way to do start/stop rather than a full hybrid.

The propower does work well for camping. It will shine when side by sides become electric. Also works well for charging batteries for electric trolling motors if on a multi day trip.

[FenwickHockey65]

...anyone noticing a lack of consistency here?

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Hybrid maybe, electric not so much

I agree. And EV towing is hard on range. Plenty of evidence amongst the Tesla crowd. 50% towing capacity of a Tesla Model Y gave 50% range. So if you tow close to max ratings, expect dismal range.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

...anyone noticing a lack of consistency here?

Equinoxe?

[FenwickHockey65]

Escalade-V

[HartfordRacingCaptain]

Any ideas when we should expect reveal of the 2023 Colorado/Canyon?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by HartfordRacingCaptain

Any ideas when we should expect reveal of the 2023 Colorado/Canyon?

I'd guess later this year.