[TLSTWIN]

Has anyone done this yet? If so, was it worth it? I am wondering about rotor life on the track only.

I would switch back to steel for the road. Or maybe switching back and forth wouldn't be good.

I believe I saw somewhere that the rear calipers would have to be swapped out with the z28 calipers also.

Or is a better option using the CT5-V brakes and rotors?

[kropscamaro16]

why? if you want bigger brakes i would probably do the ap racing or essex bbk but what are you trying to achieve?

[Beescuz]

I have 15 track days on my stock rotors and second set of stock brakes. Right at 1500 track miles.

I run with with some friends that have 5th Gen Z28's and they took off their carbon fiber rotors. Very expensive. They switched to Girodisc and love it.

You having issues?

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

why? if you want bigger brakes i would probably do the ap racing or essex bbk but what are you trying to achieve?

obviously better/harder breaking. and less rotating mass. There has to be something to the other big motor vehicles using the CC. I am trying to see if there is a longer life with them, substantial braking difference, etc

Originally Posted by Beescuz

I have 15 track days on my stock rotors and second set of stock brakes. Right at 1500 track miles.

I run with with some friends that have 5th Gen Z28's and they took off their carbon fiber rotors. Very expensive. They switched to Girodisc and love it.

You having issues?

no doubt the oem brakes and rotors are good and last.

I noticed some brake fade at the NCM, but not anything to worry about yet.

I know they are expensive, just love having good hard braking.

Why did they take the CC off? just replacement cost? going through them quicker?

[cbourbs]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

Has anyone done this yet? If so, was it worth it? I am wondering about rotor life on the track only.

I would switch back to steel for the road. Or maybe switching back and forth wouldn't be good.

I believe I saw somewhere that the rear calipers would have to be swapped out with the z28 calipers also.

Or is a better option using the CT5-V brakes and rotors?

Carbon Ceramics won't last as long as the steel brakes. The only advantage is weight. I track with allot of Porsche guys and that's their experience. A good compromise might be the girodisk brakes. Some weight savings but just as good braking power and far less than carbon ceramics.

I stay with the stock brakes.

[Beescuz]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

obviously better/harder breaking. and less rotating mass. There has to be something to the other big motor vehicles using the CC. I am trying to see if there is a longer life with them, substantial braking difference, etc


no doubt the oem brakes and rotors are good and last.

I noticed some brake fade at the NCM, but not anything to worry about yet.

I know they are expensive, just love having good hard braking.

Why did they take the CC off? just replacement cost? going through them quicker?

The replacement cost was the main issue. Also the Girodisc are as good and last longer. Girodisc with Raybestos brake pads for your car runs around $2800. Double that for CC.

[Katech_Zach]

Anderson Composite's Sema car had them. As far as I know, the offset is really close, i think a shim is needed between the knuckle and the caliper mounts to get the right spacing to the rotor (or it may be the opposite and it needs to come closer, i know it is a 10mm difference though).

Not sure what you'd do with the parking brake, since the Z28 is a manual brake and the ZL1 1LE is electronic

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by Beescuz

The replacement cost was the main issue. Also the Girodisc are as good and last longer. Girodisc with Raybestos brake pads for your car runs around $2800. Double that for CC.

ok, good info.

Originally Posted by Katech_Zach

Anderson Composite's Sema car had them. As far as I know, the offset is really close, i think a shim is needed between the knuckle and the caliper mounts to get the right spacing to the rotor (or it may be the opposite and it needs to come closer, i know it is a 10mm difference though).

Not sure what you'd do with the parking brake, since the Z28 is a manual brake and the ZL1 1LE is electronic

I dont think that matters, the "parking brake" is internal. But I do believe the rear CC brakes are larger and you have to get the rear calipers as well

Originally Posted by cbourbs

Carbon Ceramics won't last as long as the steel brakes. The only advantage is weight. I track with allot of Porsche guys and that's their experience. A good compromise might be the girodisk brakes. Some weight savings but just as good braking power and far less than carbon ceramics.

I stay with the stock brakes.

This is what I was wondering. If they lasted longer and lighter, it would be great. but 63lbs is not worth it to spend $6k every 3rd or 4th year only for weight savings.

[Katech_Zach]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

ok, good info.

I dont think that matters, the "parking brake" is internal. But I do believe the rear CC brakes are larger and you have to get the rear calipers as well

This is what I was wondering. If they lasted longer and lighter, it would be great. but 63lbs is not worth it to spend $6k every 3rd or 4th year only for weight savings.

Yes.... But the 5th gen Z28 has a manual parking break mechanism mounted to the caliper, with a physical brake lever in the cabin. The 6th gen has an electronically activated mechanism. You'd have to either make a custom parking brake handle/linkage for the vehicle, or adapt the factory 6th gen actuator to the back of the z28 caliper (edit, not correct. Thinking of a different vehicle)

Carbon rotors can last quite a long time, but it all depends on how aggressive of a pad you run. We have had track customers go through 3 full sets of factory GM carbon pads before the rotors were smoked, we have also had people smoke rotors after 1 set of aggressive pagid aftermarket pads.

Just like steel, wear varies on aggressiveness of driving/pad choice

[olblue75]

The 5th Gens didn’t have anything attached to the caliper, there’s a small drum brake set up inside the brake hat. They are not like the older Gens of Camaro/TA’s with a single piston rear disc brake set up.

[Nick S]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

Has anyone done this yet? If so, was it worth it? I am wondering about rotor life on the track only.

I would switch back to steel for the road. Or maybe switching back and forth wouldn't be good.

I believe I saw somewhere that the rear calipers would have to be swapped out with the z28 calipers also.

Or is a better option using the CT5-V brakes and rotors?

I have an Essex/AP brake kit for sale that can work on a 6th gen. All that is needed is to buy a set of rotors with the 6th gen hat on them and a set of brake lines. All the rest of the part numbers are the same.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594055

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by Nick S

I have an Essex/AP brake kit for sale that can work on a 6th gen. All that is needed is to buy a set of rotors with the 6th gen hat on them and a set of brake lines. All the rest of the part numbers are the same.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594055

Thanks, I don't need CALIPERS though

[olblue75]

Here’s a complete setup but if you need rotors only he might separate.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-and-rear.html

[Stephen12ZL1]

AP kit for track is best but really expensive...Z/28 setup CCRs looks great at Cars & Coffee but won't stop any better on track and costs $$$. I would stick with the factory rotors fitted with track pads, Ti shims for the front, GM front air deflectors, and Endless brake fluid. I use Hawk DTC70/60 and can outbrake nearly everything on track.