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prd72 · 11-25-2015, 05:41 PM

What a great comparison. I think all the questions were answered. Except one in my mind.

If the Mustang GT = the SS
the gt500 = the Zl1
the gt350 = the Z/28
the gt350r = ?????

I feel that the 350r advantage was weight saving, no back seats and a lot more carbon fiber goodies that it was always going to have the advantage.

Been thinking about this since Ford announced the 350 and the R.

Also was the build quantity for the 350r, is anyone ever going to see one on the road. I hope so!!

ZYBORG · 11-25-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1leWorksforMe

Nice dig motortrend with that douche Jason wearing a mullet wig as Bob in the z28.

That host was very annoying. Watching him definitely took away from the review.

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Originally Posted by prd72

What a great comparison. I think all the questions were answered. Except one in my mind.

If the Mustang GT = the SS
the gt500 = the Zl1
the gt350 = the Z/28
the gt350r = ?????

I feel that the 350r advantage was weight saving, no back seats and a lot more carbon fiber goodies that it was always going to have the advantage.

Gt = ss
Gt500 = zl1
Gt350 = 1LE
Gt350r = z28

Crushinator · 11-25-2015, 06:03 PM

The GT350 is definitely a very good car. I love the fact that Ford and GM are building cars that rival exotics on the race track. Yep, the GT350 is a bit quicker...but I still think the Z/28 looks better and just has something you can't put into words that the GT350 doesn't have. Kinda like comparing The Fonz and Rocky. Bot Italian, both tough guys, and you know Rocky would kick the Fonz's ass, but we all want Fonzy to win, and he's without a doubt cooler than Rocky.

Crushinator · 11-25-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

That host was very annoying. Watching him definitely took away from the review.

Gt = ss
Gt500 = zl1
Gt350 = 1LE
Gt350r = z28

SS > GT
GT500 > ZL1
GT350 > 1LE
GT350R > Z/28

At least the SS can beat the GT.

Steve1LE · 11-25-2015, 06:31 PM

The GT350 is a great car and it had better beat the outgoing Z28 or that would have been a big fail for Ford.

Comparing the 5 generation to a 6 generation car is fun but it ain't over yet.

DavidCorsaro · 11-25-2015, 06:31 PM

Zero regrets. I could've had either car and would still choose the Z/28 over the GT350R, especially at current discounts. People tend to forget subtle details like tires and alignment differences, well within the noise of 1.5 seconds on track. The Shelby runs way more negative camber up front than the Chevy does from the factory. The hype is merely "shiny new thing" syndrome. I may be in the minority, but LS7 over that raspy noisemaker any day.

90503 · 11-25-2015, 06:32 PM

Just curious....Is there any history of Z/28 tracktimes at Chuckwalla?....It was a good comparison, for sure, with Randy Pobst doing both cars....Will be interesting to see how the GT350R does at other tracks where the Z/28 already has been timed...

...Still, for a 2.68(?)mile track with around a two-minute lap, the difference was very close.

shaffe · 11-25-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushinator

The GT350 is definitely a very good car. I love the fact that Ford and GM are building cars that rival exotics on the race track. Yep, the GT350 is a bit quicker...but I still think the Z/28 looks better and just has something you can't put into words that the GT350 doesn't have. Kinda like comparing The Fonz and Rocky. Bot Italian, both tough guys, and you know Rocky would kick the Fonz's ass, but we all want Fonzy to win, and he's without a doubt cooler than Rocky.

That is without a doubt the dumbest thing I have ever read....Everyone loves Rocky way more than the Fonz! hahahaha

andig · 11-25-2015, 07:25 PM

i enjoyed watching that and the GT350R is definitely a cool car and well done Ford for building it and giving us car guys more choice.

i know a few of us on here like to and have modded our Z28s and it's relatively easy (and proven) to add an extra 100 rwhp and keep good streetability. So the question I have is do you think Ford's Voodoo is capable of getting much more out of it? I know you can supercharge the 5.0 Coyote but the Voodoo seems like it might be a completely different proposition with the very high revving flat plane crank.

Andy

kingbambino22 · 11-25-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

1.5 seconds on a track isn't barely winning. That's a pretty solid margin.

What I found interesting is the GT350R really didn't pull ahead until the last straight. The Z/28 was right with it through the turns.

1.16 but who's counting lol. The Z/28 is just a little heavy. Once I'm done with my Z, the GT350R won't win and I'm not touching my motor. Going to put her on a diet. Anyway Good job Ford good job indeed. Congrats to whoever get one be it Z/28 or 350R. I know which one I'm sticking with

TLSTWIN · 11-25-2015, 07:42 PM

Remember guys, this was the GT350R they tested against the z/28, not the GT350. there is a big difference, and against a car that is almost 3yrs old.

Crushinator · 11-25-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

That is without a doubt the dumbest thing I have ever read....Everyone loves Rocky way more than the Fonz! hahahaha

Haha, I was trying to think of a good underdog analogy. I guess the Fonz vs Rocky wasn't the best choice. Now that I think about it, yeah, everyone would pick Rocky. Okay, maybe I should've stuck with, we all want the Z/28 to win. But too bad, it didn't.

Crushinator · 11-25-2015, 07:52 PM

The thing that always gets me about these videos, is how they put down the reigning champ (Z/28) when the new kid comes along (GT350). All the Motor Trend videos last year, they praised just about everything Z/28. Now, they spend all the driving time in the Z/28 pointing out the flaws.

Immortan · 11-25-2015, 07:53 PM

I guess the 65~ weight difference and more aggressive rubber on the R, gave the regular gt350 the edge it needed to beat the Z on the track.

I will still take my Z all day any day of the week.

I don't know if we will see a return Z. The Z wasn't competing against anyone, it was just being itself, doin' track things the way it knew how. Ford had a defined benchmark to beat and that they did, only with the R model from what I have seen.

Chevy could easily respond but I think it could be left knowing that ford had to go to some lengths to get close so no need to give ford another benchmark.

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11-25-2015, 06:03 PM	#17
Crushinator Drives: '15 Z/28 #783 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: PA Posts: 456 View My Garage	The GT350 is definitely a very good car. I love the fact that Ford and GM are building cars that rival exotics on the race track. Yep, the GT350 is a bit quicker...but I still think the Z/28 looks better and just has something you can't put into words that the GT350 doesn't have. Kinda like comparing The Fonz and Rocky. Bot Italian, both tough guys, and you know Rocky would kick the Fonz's ass, but we all want Fonzy to win, and he's without a doubt cooler than Rocky. __________________ 2015 Z/28 A/C and audio

11-25-2015, 06:31 PM	#19
Steve1LE Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 74	The GT350 is a great car and it had better beat the outgoing Z28 or that would have been a big fail for Ford. Comparing the 5 generation to a 6 generation car is fun but it ain't over yet. __________________

11-25-2015, 06:31 PM	#20
DavidCorsaro Hamfist Racing Drives: '15 Z/28 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: North Jersey Posts: 208	Zero regrets. I could've had either car and would still choose the Z/28 over the GT350R, especially at current discounts. People tend to forget subtle details like tires and alignment differences, well within the noise of 1.5 seconds on track. The Shelby runs way more negative camber up front than the Chevy does from the factory. The hype is merely "shiny new thing" syndrome. I may be in the minority, but LS7 over that raspy noisemaker any day. __________________ NNJR SCCA - @autoxer

11-25-2015, 07:42 PM	#25
TLSTWIN Romans10:9-13 Drives: /\yes, this is me/\ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vermilion, Ohio Posts: 4,435	THIS WAS THE TOP DOG GT350R Remember guys, this was the GT350R they tested against the z/28, not the GT350. there is a big difference, and against a car that is almost 3yrs old. __________________

11-25-2015, 05:41 PM	#15
prd72 Drives: 14 Z/28 #180 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: abbotsford canada Posts: 90	What a great comparison. I think all the questions were answered. Except one in my mind. If the Mustang GT = the SS the gt500 = the Zl1 the gt350 = the Z/28 the gt350r = ????? I feel that the 350r advantage was weight saving, no back seats and a lot more carbon fiber goodies that it was always going to have the advantage. Been thinking about this since Ford announced the 350 and the R. Also was the build quantity for the 350r, is anyone ever going to see one on the road. I hope so!!

11-25-2015, 06:32 PM	#21
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,432	Just curious....Is there any history of Z/28 tracktimes at Chuckwalla?....It was a good comparison, for sure, with Randy Pobst doing both cars....Will be interesting to see how the GT350R does at other tracks where the Z/28 already has been timed... ...Still, for a 2.68(?)mile track with around a two-minute lap, the difference was very close.

11-25-2015, 07:25 PM	#23
andig Drives: 2015 Z28 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Austin Posts: 140	i enjoyed watching that and the GT350R is definitely a cool car and well done Ford for building it and giving us car guys more choice. i know a few of us on here like to and have modded our Z28s and it's relatively easy (and proven) to add an extra 100 rwhp and keep good streetability. So the question I have is do you think Ford's Voodoo is capable of getting much more out of it? I know you can supercharge the 5.0 Coyote but the Voodoo seems like it might be a completely different proposition with the very high revving flat plane crank. Andy

11-25-2015, 07:52 PM	#27
Crushinator Drives: '15 Z/28 #783 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: PA Posts: 456 View My Garage	The thing that always gets me about these videos, is how they put down the reigning champ (Z/28) when the new kid comes along (GT350). All the Motor Trend videos last year, they praised just about everything Z/28. Now, they spend all the driving time in the Z/28 pointing out the flaws.

11-25-2015, 07:53 PM	#28
Immortan Drives: 2015 Z/28 Black, A/C, Stereo Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 147	I guess the 65~ weight difference and more aggressive rubber on the R, gave the regular gt350 the edge it needed to beat the Z on the track. I will still take my Z all day any day of the week. I don't know if we will see a return Z. The Z wasn't competing against anyone, it was just being itself, doin' track things the way it knew how. Ford had a defined benchmark to beat and that they did, only with the R model from what I have seen. Chevy could easily respond but I think it could be left knowing that ford had to go to some lengths to get close so no need to give ford another benchmark. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk