Cam install

ChadSZL1 · 09-30-2021, 11:49 AM

I am about to attempt my cam install and I wanted to ask if you guys pull the motor for the install or leave it in? I am also installing a new oil pump and lower. Thanks ☺️

nighttowl · 09-30-2021, 12:35 PM

If the heads are coming off I would pull it, otherwise I would leave it in.

IneedAZ · 09-30-2021, 01:44 PM

The shop that did mine left it in the car. They did pull the nose off the front

JSH · 09-30-2021, 02:46 PM

Here ya go https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516717 I'm sure there's other video but this one should help

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Originally Posted by ChadSZL1

I am about to attempt my cam install and I wanted to ask if you guys pull the motor for the install or leave it in? I am also installing a new oil pump and lower. Thanks ☺️

swisstyphoon · 09-30-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadSZL1

I am about to attempt my cam install and I wanted to ask if you guys pull the motor for the install or leave it in? I am also installing a new oil pump and lower. Thanks ☺️

Might as well pull it. If you do the oil pump also, you would have to remove the steering gear to be able to get the oil pan off.

Camaro1973 · 09-30-2021, 06:15 PM

Seems like it’s just to much hassle to do it in car. Pulling the pump, messing with timing chain and timing alignment. I think most places are just pulling the motor out now.

Z OH 6 · 10-01-2021, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro1973

Seems like it’s just to much hassle to do it in car. Pulling the pump, messing with timing chain and timing alignment. I think most places are just pulling the motor out now.

Vengeance Racing pulls the engine to install a cam.

Sickspeedkuwait · 10-01-2021, 04:24 AM

Mine was pulled out

LiqTenExp · 10-01-2021, 07:17 AM

My front subframe was dropped It's more efficient, especially if you are doing Cam, valvetrain, valley cover, oil pump, heads, etc. Less chance to damage car and all you pay is the price of an alignment at the end of the day.

danhr · 10-01-2021, 07:31 AM

It just takes a few hours to pull the motor. Just pull it, that way you can do a nice clean install on a stand.

ChadSZL1 · 10-01-2021, 08:14 AM

Thanks everyone for the input….. looks like we will pull the motor.

L78toLT1 · 10-01-2021, 08:36 AM

If your car is a M6, pulling the heads while the motor is still in the car is easier. It allows the motor to tilt upwards a good bit more before hitting the firewall which will give you the clearance you need to separate the motor and trans

nighttowl · 10-01-2021, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LiqTenExp

My front subframe was dropped It's more efficient, especially if you are doing Cam, valvetrain, valley cover, oil pump, heads, etc. Less chance to damage car and all you pay is the price of an alignment at the end of the day.

Droppign ths subframe is easier, but one thing that worries me about dropping the subframe is the issues some people had with their electric power steering afterward.

Camaro1973 · 10-01-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LiqTenExp

My front subframe was dropped It's more efficient, especially if you are doing Cam, valvetrain, valley cover, oil pump, heads, etc. Less chance to damage car and all you pay is the price of an alignment at the end of the day.

This is sometimes done on a manual.

09-30-2021, 11:49 AM	#1
ChadSZL1 Red Bull Drives: 2017 Chevy ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 184	Cam install I am about to attempt my cam install and I wanted to ask if you guys pull the motor for the install or leave it in? I am also installing a new oil pump and lower. Thanks ☺️

09-30-2021, 12:35 PM	#2
nighttowl Sarcasm loading -------- Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: TX Posts: 1,805 View My Garage	If the heads are coming off I would pull it, otherwise I would leave it in. __________________ "The salesman actually told me to stop getting it sideways during the test drive" 2018 MBM ZL1 1LE - Stock 2014 CRT ZL1 574 rwhp, 537 rwtq - SOLD 2010 IBM SS Camaro VVT L99 w/ TR6060 swap, 489 rwhp, 444 rwtq - SOLD

09-30-2021, 01:44 PM	#3
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	The shop that did mine left it in the car. They did pull the nose off the front __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

09-30-2021, 06:15 PM	#6
Camaro1973 Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: NJ Posts: 1,534	Seems like it’s just to much hassle to do it in car. Pulling the pump, messing with timing chain and timing alignment. I think most places are just pulling the motor out now. __________________ 928rwhp - 93 \| 1040rwhp/898rwrq - E65 SAE LME 377 LT4 Short Block \| Magnuson 2650 80mm upper w/13% lower (9.06) \| DSX Lid & Valve Covers \| CSP Custom Cam w/32% fuel lobe \| CID Heads \| NW 103mm TB \| Roto Fab Big Gulp \| CSP 2" Headers w/Green GESI Gen 2 Cats \| Borla 3" Full Cat Back w/ S-Type\| Mighty Mouse Wild Catch Can\| Custom Holley Low side Fuel system\| TooHigh PSI Port Injection w/Holley Controller \| Forced Inductions Interchiller w/2 gallon fender tank \| TK Performance built 10L90

10-01-2021, 04:24 AM	#8
Sickspeedkuwait Drives: '17 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Earth Posts: 108	Mine was pulled out __________________ '17 ZL1 M6 8xxwhp Magnuson 2650

10-01-2021, 07:17 AM	#9
LiqTenExp Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 905	My front subframe was dropped It's more efficient, especially if you are doing Cam, valvetrain, valley cover, oil pump, heads, etc. Less chance to damage car and all you pay is the price of an alignment at the end of the day. __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe M6 (847whp Dynojet on 93)

10-01-2021, 07:31 AM	#10
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	It just takes a few hours to pull the motor. Just pull it, that way you can do a nice clean install on a stand. __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

10-01-2021, 08:14 AM	#11
ChadSZL1 Red Bull Drives: 2017 Chevy ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 184	Thanks everyone for the input….. looks like we will pull the motor.

10-01-2021, 08:36 AM	#12
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,786	If your car is a M6, pulling the heads while the motor is still in the car is easier. It allows the motor to tilt upwards a good bit more before hitting the firewall which will give you the clearance you need to separate the motor and trans __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

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