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Old 06-25-2019, 10:03 PM   #225
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Mike@SolerPerformance, have you tested the LT5 throttle body and the difference between it and your part? I have that TB with a tune, and am curious if there's anything left on the table.
No numbers yet, I presume at part throttle we should be above the stock 95 mm, at WOT the stock 95 mm should win it.

I also think the influence of the 95 mm or any larger TB, in general, is sometimes over-rated. To me, the TB is sized so it is not an obstruction at WOT, after that, increasing the size only makes sense if increasing all sizes and decreasing all restrictions along the airflow path (from the filter to the cylinders). Other than that, at WOT, the TB is just a 4-inch section of a 3-4 ft long duct. Very different story at part throttle, where it is TB what governs the flow.

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Old 06-26-2019, 09:57 AM   #226
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No numbers yet, I presume at part throttle we should be above the stock 95 mm, at WOT the stock 95 mm should win it.

I also think the influence of the 95 mm or any larger TB, in general, is sometimes over-rated. To me, the TB is sized so it is not an obstruction at WOT, after that, increasing the size only makes sense if increasing all sizes and decreasing all restrictions along the airflow path (from the filter to the cylinders). Other than that, at WOT, the TB is just a 4-inch section of a 3-4 ft long duct. Very different story at part throttle, where it is TB what governs the flow.

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Plus..if the opening is too BIG...you lose that "Vortex" effect....right?
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:20 PM   #227
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No numbers yet, I presume at part throttle we should be above the stock 95 mm, at WOT the stock 95 mm should win it.

I also think the influence of the 95 mm or any larger TB, in general, is sometimes over-rated. To me, the TB is sized so it is not an obstruction at WOT, after that, increasing the size only makes sense if increasing all sizes and decreasing all restrictions along the airflow path (from the filter to the cylinders). Other than that, at WOT, the TB is just a 4-inch section of a 3-4 ft long duct. Very different story at part throttle, where it is TB what governs the flow.

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Mike, do you recommend waiting before buying your TB if I’m going to eventually be doing LT headers and a CAI?

I’d hate to get your TB now and then have to re-work it after I mod the car.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:47 PM   #228
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Once you have disconnected the battery to allow the ECU to relearn, don't close the trunk, you will save yourself the pain of crawling over the back seats to get to the emergency release.

I am such a moron sometimes...……….
Haha.. I did the same thing with a convertible. Except I needed to pull the key out of the fob to unlatch the trunk from behind the back seat...
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:32 AM   #229
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After doing some research and reading through this entire thread I'm sold! I just ordered mine and can't wait to post the results.

Thanks Mike and the team at Soler Performance!
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Old 06-27-2019, 01:59 PM   #230
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Been following this for a while and researching. Mine just arrived yesterday and will be going in this weekend. Will post my thoughts when i'm done.
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Old 06-27-2019, 02:55 PM   #231
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Well I drove about the first 20 miles of the relearn process and it's already pretty clear how much different this feels off idle. Everything at light-part throttle is smoother about the power delivery IMO.

Ultimately this is mostly subjective for all of us since we aren't collecting any hard data, but so far so good as far as I'm concerned.

Definitely much easier starting off too, didn't feel as boggy to me.
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:20 PM   #232
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Plus..if the opening is too BIG...you lose that "Vortex" effect....right?
Yes!
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:21 PM   #233
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Does this PTB equate to Carb/cable response?
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:27 PM   #234
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Mike, do you recommend waiting before buying your TB if I’m going to eventually be doing LT headers and a CAI?

I’d hate to get your TB now and then have to re-work it after I mod the car.
Alain, no need to, those happen to be our customer's most common Mods. Experience shows that the standard configuration of our TB, for any particular engine/transmission combination you may have, works well in combination with those.

If you are tuning when you add those, it will be good you also bring the TB so it is taken into account when tuning.

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Old 06-27-2019, 03:35 PM   #235
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After doing some research and reading through this entire thread I'm sold! I just ordered mine and can't wait to post the results.

Thanks Mike and the team at Soler Performance!
Thank you, William and all others for your orders and kind words, reviews, recommendations.

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Old 06-27-2019, 03:50 PM   #236
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Does this PTB equate to Carb/cable response?
Not exactly, but that is the direction we went and took it as close as we could w/o a tune.

The most important thing about why those felt so responsive and intuitive is that the TB bore was straight (cylindrical that is) and those respond naturally fast and linear. The cable and mechanical linkage from the pedal kept it that way.

We can make such TB, but it will need tuning beyond just changing the pedal mapping. And that is a tune I'm not sure can be done. I've asked a few tuners and some think what they need is not accessible to be changed, others think it can be done but have never tried it.

I'm willing to give it a shot if I can find a tuner who wants to work with us. Why not? A perfectly linear response like in the good old times of cables and idle control valves.

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Old 06-27-2019, 04:43 PM   #237
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Ordered one as well.

I can't help but be impressed by a seller who's confident enough in their product to share detail down to the theory, analysis, and engineering of it, most won't, and if you think Mike has shared a lot here, check out their web site!

Add great customer service, quickly shipping after placing the order, and the 100% positive testimonials here, and I'm really looking forward to receiving my own unit!
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:11 PM   #238
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Ordered! After reading so many great things I decided to try it out. Looking forward to seeing the difference between stock and this unit!
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