[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by BahamaTodd

Maybe rename the section.

Or split the 1LE subforum into V6, SS, and ZL1 sections and move a number of relevant threads from here to there.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I give the 6th gen a 0% chance of a Z/28. The ZL1 1LE is what the Z/28 would have been, with a different engine.

Team Corvette dictated a supercharged engine and team Camaro has to deal with it.

Would have been awesome to see what this car would have been as a Z/28.

A Z/28 may still have life somehow with this GT4 Camaro....lighter weight, no frills, etc., etc.,....

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I give the 6th gen a 0% chance of a Z/28. The ZL1 1LE is what the Z/28 would have been, with a different engine.

Team Corvette dictated a supercharged engine and team Camaro has to deal with it.

Would have been awesome to see what this car would have been as a Z/28.

Its times like these that I take comfort in the insane bizarreness of quantum physics. For example, there is a non-0 chance that in the next instant you will materialize on the other side of the moon. Its an ridiculously small chance, sure. Statisically, its unlikely that any lump of matter the size of a human being will be spontaneously teleported like that over the entire existence of the universe. But mathematically, the odds are not 0. And if that is possible, then a 6th gen Z/28 is a least a few times more likely.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its times like these that I take comfort in the insane bizarreness of quantum physics. For example, there is a non-0 chance that in the next instant you will materialize on the other side of the moon. Its an ridiculously small chance, sure. Statisically, its unlikely that any lump of matter the size of a human being will be spontaneously teleported like that over the entire existence of the universe. But mathematically, the odds are not 0. And if that is possible, then a 6th gen Z/28 is a least a few times more likely.

Ok, I will give you that there is a microscopic chance of the Z/28 coming along.

Maybe GM will realize the Camaro has potential as a performance car and needs an engine separate from the Corvette lineup.

I would love to be wrong.

[90503]

One thing to consider, though, for a future Z/28....There are no spy-shots, rumors....nothing (now).....suggesting one....If there is going to be a Z/28, it may be a long, long way off....

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by 90503

One thing to consider, though, for a future Z/28....There are no spy-shots, rumors....nothing (now).....suggesting one....If there is going to be a Z/28, it may be a long, long way off....

Or, the Z/28 could be a ZL1 1LE with a new LTx engine and less interior content. They could be running them side by side and we would never know.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Or, the Z/28 could be a ZL1 1LE with a new LTx engine and less interior content. They could be running them side by side and we would never know.

Perhaps they still need to find a street version home for the dry-sump, performance version of the LT1 being built for the GT4....That could go into the car you describe above....

[NemesisC5]

In hindsight it's funny how this makes so much sense.....

[NemesisC5]

Notice the absence of carbon ceramic rotors....will they be optional?

[90503]

Originally Posted by NemesisC5

Notice the absence of carbon ceramic rotors....will they be optional?

Good question.....the more I look at this ZL1 1LE, it does seem more Z/28ish....lighter weight, (60 lbs), lighter rear seat, manual trans only,....unique suspension with 5thGen Z/28 dampers...19" tires and wheels...
I'm sort of diggin' it....lol....Carbon ceramic rotors would really set it apart....

Hopefully it won't be outrageously expensive....We'll see...

[NemesisC5]

The CC brake package sheds quite a bit of weight, also according to this info the car has luxuries not common to Gen 5 Z28. Possible clues there may be a max effort Z28 either with 2300cc blower or maybe the new Eaton 2650cc rotor package...or a High Output NA motor.

https://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet...amaro_zl1_1le/

Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
Chevrolet has established a new performance benchmark with the introduction of the 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE - the most track-capable Camaro ever.

Taking the track-focused 1LE formula to an unprecedented level, the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE incorporates racing-based suspension and aero technologies, as well as exclusive Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R summer-only tires,* in an extreme track performance package.

"The track-focused 1LE package offers progressive levels of performance across the Camaro lineup, from the V6 1LE to the SS 1LE," said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. "But with the new ZL1 1LE, the progression takes a quantum leap - this is the ultimate track-day Camaro."

In preliminary testing, the new Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors' 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track.

The improved track performance is driven by four key elements:

Aerodynamics: New aero features including a carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia produce grip-generating downforce to help the car stick harder and drive faster in turns.
Adjustable suspension: The ZL1 1LE features racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV® (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers front and rear for exceptional wheel and vehicle control. The front-end ride height is adjustable with the front dampers, which are used with all-new, adjustable camber plates. The rear stabilizer bar also offers three-way adjustability. All of the components are designed for quick changes at the track for optimal performance and a quick return to street settings when the track day ends.
Wheels and tires: New, lightweight forged aluminum wheels are an inch wider but an inch smaller in diameter, front and rear, than standard ZL1 wheels and are used with new Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g. Developed exclusively for the Camaro ZL1 1LE, the 3R tires are designed to warm up faster to help maintain more consistent grip and speed, lap after lap. The overall footprint grows approximately 10 percent over the ZL1, but the wheel-and-tire package weighs about 1.5 pounds (3.3 kg) less per corner.
Lighter weight: The lighter wheels and dampers, along with reduced thickness rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, contribute to an approximately 60-pound (27 kg) lower curb weight than a standard ZL1 Coupe.
"The new Camaro ZL1 1LE offers the supreme track experience," said Mark Dickens, executive director, Chevrolet Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports Engineering. "It's the pinnacle of Camaro performance and advances the 1LE's nearly 30-year legacy of uncompromising, track-tailored capability."

The power behind the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE is the 650-horsepower, supercharged LT4 engine backed by a six-speed manual transmission featuring Active Rev Match. Brembo brakes, including red calipers with the 1LE logo, are also included. Additional standard features include dual-zone automatic climate control, Bose premium audio system, heated/ventilated front seats and heated steering wheel.

[NemesisC5]

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...z28-successor/

The ZL1 1LE will only be available with a six-speed manual transmission, just like the Z/28. Why not just call this a Z/28? Chevy says that name is reserved for naturally aspirated cars, and wouldn’t rule out a true Z/28 variant in the future. For now though, consider this your Z/28 successor. Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser said this model is “not your daily driver,” but it is “a little more of a daily driver than the Z/28 was.”

[NemesisC5]

https://youtu.be/Q6RetYekGJ0

[90503]

Originally Posted by NemesisC5

The CC brake package sheds quite a bit of weight, also according to this info the car has luxuries not common to Gen 5 Z28. Possible clues there may be a max effort Z28 either with 2300cc blower or maybe the new Eaton 2650cc rotor package...or a High Output NA motor.

https://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet...amaro_zl1_1le/

Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
Chevrolet has established a new performance benchmark with the introduction of the 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE - the most track-capable Camaro ever.

Taking the track-focused 1LE formula to an unprecedented level, the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE incorporates racing-based suspension and aero technologies, as well as exclusive Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R summer-only tires,* in an extreme track performance package.

"The track-focused 1LE package offers progressive levels of performance across the Camaro lineup, from the V6 1LE to the SS 1LE," said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. "But with the new ZL1 1LE, the progression takes a quantum leap - this is the ultimate track-day Camaro."

In preliminary testing, the new Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors' 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track.

The improved track performance is driven by four key elements:

Aerodynamics: New aero features including a carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia produce grip-generating downforce to help the car stick harder and drive faster in turns.
Adjustable suspension: The ZL1 1LE features racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV® (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers front and rear for exceptional wheel and vehicle control. The front-end ride height is adjustable with the front dampers, which are used with all-new, adjustable camber plates. The rear stabilizer bar also offers three-way adjustability. All of the components are designed for quick changes at the track for optimal performance and a quick return to street settings when the track day ends.
Wheels and tires: New, lightweight forged aluminum wheels are an inch wider but an inch smaller in diameter, front and rear, than standard ZL1 wheels and are used with new Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g. Developed exclusively for the Camaro ZL1 1LE, the 3R tires are designed to warm up faster to help maintain more consistent grip and speed, lap after lap. The overall footprint grows approximately 10 percent over the ZL1, but the wheel-and-tire package weighs about 1.5 pounds (3.3 kg) less per corner.
Lighter weight: The lighter wheels and dampers, along with reduced thickness rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, contribute to an approximately 60-pound (27 kg) lower curb weight than a standard ZL1 Coupe.
"The new Camaro ZL1 1LE offers the supreme track experience," said Mark Dickens, executive director, Chevrolet Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports Engineering. "It's the pinnacle of Camaro performance and advances the 1LE's nearly 30-year legacy of uncompromising, track-tailored capability."

The power behind the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE is the 650-horsepower, supercharged LT4 engine backed by a six-speed manual transmission featuring Active Rev Match. Brembo brakes, including red calipers with the 1LE logo, are also included. Additional standard features include dual-zone automatic climate control, Bose premium audio system, heated/ventilated front seats and heated steering wheel.

Originally Posted by NemesisC5

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...z28-successor/

The ZL1 1LE will only be available with a six-speed manual transmission, just like the Z/28. Why not just call this a Z/28? Chevy says that name is reserved for naturally aspirated cars, and wouldn’t rule out a true Z/28 variant in the future. For now though, consider this your Z/28 successor. Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser said this model is “not your daily driver,” but it is “a little more of a daily driver than the Z/28 was.”

Originally Posted by NemesisC5

https://youtu.be/Q6RetYekGJ0

All good articles and links...Thanks for posting....