02-06-2018, 11:16 AM | #1 |
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Torque specs on Brembo brakes
Looking for torque specs for the Brembo brake bolts and brake lines?
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Caliper to knuckle: 150 Nm + 15 to 30 degrees + BLUE thread locker Banjo bolt: 40 Nm + new crush washers Bleed screw: 17-20 Nm Rears: Caliper to knuckle: 125 Nm + BLUE thread locker Banjo bolt: 40 Nm + new crush washers Bleed screw: 17-20 Nm
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02-06-2018, 04:25 PM | #3 |
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Thank you for the information
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02-06-2018, 04:40 PM | #4 |
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even with a breaker bar its pretty hard to knock those front caliper bolts off lol getting em back on is easy but off is damn hard
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03-12-2022, 03:06 AM | #5 |
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I read somewhere that front caliper bolts are TTY - thoughts ?
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03-12-2022, 08:15 AM | #6 |
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Whatever you do don't overtighten the bleeder valves. Those calipers are aluminum, not steel. Hand tighten with a small wrench only. None of the tools I have are accurate at that low of a torque value. This mistake has cost me a a new set of front calipers last year.
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03-12-2022, 09:53 PM | #7 |
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you don't need to torque the bleeders as stated....firm plus a little is adequate!
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From the 2022 service manual: BRAKE SYSTEM FASTENER TORQUES.pdf
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I'd still recommend a torque wrench over the "snug plus a little" approach. Everyone's "snug" will be different and with the caliper being made of aluminum it'll expand at a faster rate than the steel bleed screw when heated, meaning the achieved torque/clamp load is more important when doing anything that significantly heats the calipers. I'd much rather drive a car, especially on track, with bleed screws tightened to a spec that's been designed, tested, and approved by Brembo and GM on a car warrantied for track use than risk under-tightening and get a fluid leak or worse.
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I admit I have not checked my bleeder valves to see if my "snug + a little " is way outta wack but 17Nm X 8.8075 in/lbs = 150.5 in/lbs. That's 12.5 ft/lbs.
Sounds like a lot of torque but I will put my 1/4" drive Tekton torque wrench on tomorrow and double check myself. It has a range of 10-150in/lbs. IOW- it maxes out at 16.9 Nm. |
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I've been using 17 Nm for the last 4 years on mine with no issues whatsoever. Unfortunately, any of the 3/8 torque wrenches I've seen struggle to accurately hit torques that low because it's right at the bottom of the range. A good 1/4 drive torque wrench should do the trick though. The bleed screw spec is right in the middle of the wrench's range. I'd still recommend a torque wrench over the "snug plus a little" approach. Everyone's "snug" will be different and with the caliper being made of aluminum it'll expand at a faster rate than the steel bleed screw when heated, meaning the achieved torque/clamp load is more important when doing anything that significantly heats the calipers. I'd much rather drive a car, especially on track, with bleed screws tightened to a spec that's been designed, tested, and approved by Brembo and GM on a car warrantied for track use than risk under-tightening and get a fluid leak or worse.[/QUOTE] Completely agree with the Alpha1, but just like the Dr. always says- " you want to use the lowest effective dose" of whatever med you're discussing. While my 1/4" drive torque wrench would be maxed out at 17Nm, and therefore less accurate. I checked and my "snug + a little" is still keeping my bleeder valves leak free after the last bleed(OK- first bleed, both sides, on all 4 wheels)and after about 1K miles. I've also bled a lot of motorcycle brakes. I double checked the torque on them today (I didn't have a spec. to go by or would have used the wrench when I bled them), and they are at 80in/lbs or 9.0Nm. Very close to right in the middle of my wrench's range. As I said- a torque spec is always pretty much gospel and I'm glad it is working for Alpha1, but when it comes to aluminum and brass interactions IMHO, the least torque that works will buy you as many successful bleeds as possible. And whenever possible- always use a torque wrench, not a Dork wrench! |
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