Jalopnik asks: ZL1 vs. GT500

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Exactly! 13' GT500 Is all Talk & NO SHOW!

And Ford will still get outsold either way so they still will be frowning from their pocket books- GM IS THE NUMBER ONE AUTOMOTIVE COMPANY IN THE WORLD WITH THE MOST SALES- WE ONLY HAD 500,000 RECALLS WHILE FORD HAD TONS MORE LAST YEAR. OH YEAH WHILE WE KEEP OUTSELLING YOU WE WILL KEEP HANDING OUT FORD OUR TAIL LIGHTS WITH THE NEW C7 CORVETTE & THE ATS-V THEN JUST TO THROW SALT ON THE WOUND WE WILL MAKE THE MUSTAKE MORE IRRELEVENT BY BRINGING OUT THE ALPHA PLATFORM 3,300 LBS 6TH GEN CAMARO. KEEP TRYING FORD WE ARE LOVING KEEPING YOU IN THE REARVIEW IN TERMS OF SALES & PERFORMANCE!

And I'm sure Ford loves keeping GM in the rear view in terms of profits... crystal ball predictions about the coming gt500 aside, Ford shareholders aren't exactly upset

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

And I'm sure Ford loves keeping GM in the rear view in terms of profits... crystal ball predictions about the coming gt500 aside, Ford shareholders aren't exactly upset

How are they keeing GM in the rear view in profits? GM sold more vehicles than Ford did in 2011 by a large margin dont believe me look up the facts. Just because GM just recently came back on the market with shares isnt that big of a deal that will all come in due time.

[The IOM Ninja]

My friends and I all voted GT500 just to spite you....

[TaylorRyanSS]

ZL1 is winning now

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

How are they keeing GM in the rear view in profits? GM sold more vehicles than Ford did in 2011 by a large margin dont believe me look up the facts. Just because GM just recently came back on the market with shares isnt that big of a deal that will all come in due time.

Just because you sell more product does NOT mean you are making higher profits. More important is the profit made on each sell and who had to offer the most rebates to move product.

[den318]

Originally Posted by Stew

Just because you sell more product does NOT mean you are making higher profits. More important is the profit made on each sell and who had to offer the most rebates to move product.

Yeah, just ask APPLE.

[chain777]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

How are they keeing GM in the rear view in profits? GM sold more vehicles than Ford did in 2011 by a large margin dont believe me look up the facts. Just because GM just recently came back on the market with shares isnt that big of a deal that will all come in due time.

Read this article if you want to understand all the factors that go into the profitability of an auto maker, in this case Ford:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ting-gain.html

[meissen]

ZL1 in the lead by about 800 votes now.

[IBM]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Exactly! 13' GT500 Is all Talk & NO SHOW!

And Ford will still get outsold either way so they still will be frowning from their pocket books- GM IS THE NUMBER ONE AUTOMOTIVE COMPANY IN THE WORLD WITH THE MOST SALES- WE ONLY HAD 500,000 RECALLS WHILE FORD HAD TONS MORE LAST YEAR. OH YEAH WHILE WE KEEP OUTSELLING YOU WE WILL KEEP HANDING OUT FORD OUR TAIL LIGHTS WITH THE NEW C7 CORVETTE & THE ATS-V THEN JUST TO THROW SALT ON THE WOUND WE WILL MAKE THE MUSTAKE MORE IRRELEVENT BY BRINGING OUT THE ALPHA PLATFORM 3,300 LBS 6TH GEN CAMARO. KEEP TRYING FORD WE ARE LOVING KEEPING YOU IN THE REARVIEW IN TERMS OF SALES & PERFORMANCE!

WTF saying GT500 stands no chance what kind of joker is this??? From the looks of it the GT500 is a better product with better performance, and, sorry to break it to you, will probably sell more in the longrun. And I'm sure Ford is not worried about a 3,300lb camaro when they can do the same.

Edit: And I don't see what you're bashing Ford for... If it weren't for the Mustang you wouldn't be driving a Camaro right now..

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

My friends and I all voted GT500 just to spite you....

I enjoyed that.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by IBM

WTF saying GT500 stands no chance what kind of joker is this??? From the looks of it the GT500 is a better product with better performance, and, sorry to break it to you, will probably sell more in the longrun. And I'm sure Ford is not worried about a 3,300lb camaro when they can do the same.

Edit: And I don't see what you're bashing Ford for... If it weren't for the Mustang you wouldn't be driving a Camaro right now..

he bleeds Chevy. Maybe he should check where GM stock is now compared to when it opened last year and how much $$ stockholders lost.

[den318]

Chevy fans of this site are all in denials. They "know" what the Gt500 can do, they just can't accept that their new car will be beaten. There will be a lot of feelings hurt come summer.


Similar to our overview of the new supercharged 5.8-liter V8, MM&FF gives a nice overview of the engine changes to the Shelby GT500 for 2013. What really interested us, though, are the details regarding the all new launch control system. An advanced version of the one featured in the 2012 Boss 302, the launch control system allows the driver to set a specific launch rpm, and combined with an advanced traction control system will allow the car to launch with virtually no slip. MM&FF got to experience the system at work and says that “after seeing the system in action, we can report that it performs at the level of even the best quarter-mile hot shoes.” That’s saying something, since editor Evan Smith is an experienced drag racer capable of getting the fastest times out of any car.
Ford also stated that the system is capable of adapting to a wide range of variables. “It works in real time and changes with conditions,” says Dan Dunn, an engineer who worked on the 2013 Shelby GT500. “It will adapt to changes in gearing within reason, and to many performance modification,”
So what can we expect as far as 1/4 mile times from the 2013 Shelby GT500? MM&FF estimates that “the 650hp GT500 will be capable of running 11.70s to 11.60s at well above 120 mph in bone-stock trim. In optimal conditions, perhaps quicker and faster. And with 4.30s and sticky tires, low 11s or even 10s could be possible.”


Spin this however you want. I fully expected every magazine review of the 13Gt500 to go under 4 sec 0-60, under 12sec quarter and 120mph+ trap. Something the ZL1 missed on every review so far.

[Zabo]

Originally Posted by den318

Chevy fans of this site are all in denials. They "know" what the Gt500 can do, they just can't accept that their new car will be beaten. There will be a lot of feelings hurt come summer.

Skipped the spam..

Spin this however you want. I fully expected every magazine review of the 13Gt500 to go under 4 sec 0-60, under 12sec quarter and 120mph+ trap. Something the ZL1 missed on every review so far.

So it can go faster in a straight line/into a wall.. but can it turn?

Give an idiot a Bugatti and he'll kill himself. Give all the idiots of the world a GT500 and the world's IQ level just went up 200 points.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Zabo

So it can go faster in a straight line/into a wall.. but can it turn?

Give an idiot a Bugatti and he'll kill himself. Give all the idiots of the world a GT500 and the world's IQ level just went up 200 points.

Yes, it will. the suspension is completely redone for the 13 model with a Bilstien (I believe) electronic dual mode suspension system..... I would honestly say a 12 GT500 PP wouldn't be that far off from a ZL1 in the turning dept, it pulls like 1g on the skidpad already and the 13 is going to have even stronger handling.