FDA Approved Pfizer for 16+ [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

United States

Coronavirus Cases:
41,098,851
Deaths:
668,107
Recovered:
31,480,163

I'm no statistical mathematician, however, what happened to the other 8,950,581 people? Thanos snap?

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

It's open season on talk radio anti vacc.
https://www.politico.com/states/flor...-covid-1390555

??? ???

Do you want to celebrate these deaths too?

4,415 New Breakthrough Cases in Mass., 18 More COVID Deaths Among Vaccinated

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coron...nated/2485867/

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Nothing like an SS

I'm no statistical mathematician, however, what happened to the other 8,950,581 people? Thanos snap?

Post 144, still experiencing symptoms or testing positive, etc

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Post 144, still experiencing symptoms or testing positive, etc

Ah, missed that, carry on!!!

[KenKat]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

2019 Flu accounted for approximately 300,000 deaths in the US. In 2020 it accounted for about 1,800 deaths in the US. COVID is the cure for flu!

That 2019 number is too high:

During the 2019-2020 influenza season, CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 38 million illnesses, 18 million medical visits, 405,000 hospitalizations, and 22,000 deaths. The influenza burden was higher in young children (0-4 years) and adults (18-49 years) compared with a recent season with the 2017-2018 season, a recent season with high severity, and provides evidence to support how severe seasonal influenza can be at any age.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html

Some might claim social distancing, masks and other techniques to avoid Covid also avoids flu or it could be people who would normally get flu (and maybe die from it) died of Covid instead.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Nothing like an SS

Ah, missed that, carry on!!!

Lots of :"information" to weed through in here

[FarmerFran]

More "Statistics"

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/nearly-252...012011555.html

[FarmerFran]

And more, "info"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-pi...125332549.html

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

Ditto. I wash my hands, maintain proper hygiene, and stay away from people if I'm ill. The primary difference I've seen over the last 18 months is I'm yet to see someone yell at someone for wearing a mask, but I've personally been repeatedly mocked, shamed, and discriminated against because I don't because I can't wear a mask. I agree with a person's decision to do what they feel is right for their family, but don't force me into doing what you feel is right for yours. (Not directed at you big1276.)

My wife and son were cursed at while in a line because they were socially distancing. It happens both ways.

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

A vaccine is defined as a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease. If the covid shot was a vaccine people wouldn't be getting sick after having had it. The problem is it is a glorified flu shot. It hopes to target the latest strand of the mutation. If the vaccine was a true vaccine, one you got it you'd be good to go, or at minimum be substantially reduced on chance of getting the illness. The problem is covid is a missing virus that will be with us for the foreseeable future. This isn't because the unvaccinated are killing the world, it's because it's a mutating virus that will do what is necessary to survive.

We eliminated Polio because of vaccination. There wasn't the same pushback as there is today. If there had been, it would have mutated also. Same with the flu, there's so many variations because it's been allowed to get out of control. Same will happen with Covid at this rate.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

We eliminated Polio because of vaccination. There wasn't the same pushback as there is today. If there had been, it would have mutated also. Same with the flu, there's so many variations because it's been allowed to get out of control. Same will happen with Covid at this rate.

One of the articles I posted earlier touches on this, that "back in the day" you did not have the antivaxxers and if you did they were not as big an issue so it was "easier" to get things under control. I improvised the statement.

[95 imp]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

We eliminated Polio because of vaccination. There wasn't the same pushback as there is today. If there had been, it would have mutated also. Same with the flu, there's so many variations because it's been allowed to get out of control. Same will happen with Covid at this rate.

Well, there are several reasons for that:

1) The polio vaccine wasn't a "rush job".
2) You didn't recover 100% when you were stricken.


The whole mutation thing:
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evoli...evolutionpolio

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by bigd1276

And my reason for not wearing a mask comes from my doctor who states that I’m healthy and healthy people should never have to wear a mask. You do what’s best for you and your family and I will do the same for mine. I have never been responsible for anyone’s healthcare but my own and my family’s.

That's a perfectly acceptable stance. My point has been and always will be that if someone chooses not to be vaccinated or adhere to other safety protocols like masks and social distancing, then they shouldn't get upset if that prohibits them from being able to go to certain places. Businesses have the right to refuse service to people that don't adhere to their rules. And states have the right to enact mask mandates as they see fit to protect the public.

[FarmerFran]

Hum, it was my understanding that mask wearing was not for your protection as much as mitigating the spread.