Best alcohol injection

MrcamaroZ28 · 01-23-2020, 07:51 AM

What is the Best alcohol injection? I know I will need a tune to get the maximum performance but is it necessary to have it tuned? And how much HP can I gain with no tune verse with a tune. (2018 camaro SS 6speed, D1 Procharger)

Umbriel · 01-23-2020, 08:23 AM

I used Alky Control on my 4th gen, not planning on running meth on this car.

laynlo15 · 01-23-2020, 09:15 AM

I have the AEM with 1-1000cc nozzle but have run 2 nozzles in the past. Yes you need a tune.

KingLT1 · 01-23-2020, 09:28 AM

Yep you need a tune. It will run rich if you don't. Meth has to be treated like additional fueling for it to work or your engine runs rich. DI motors don't like to run rich...so it's not like port injected stuff where you could use it for cooling only and run a little richer. The fuel system will need leaned out some. There is a fine line there...For a rough example, I know some will tune for .85 lambda on fuel system, then spray meth to get it back into the .82 range. This way if the meth fails it goes a little lean but doesn't nuke the engine.

Choda · 01-23-2020, 09:33 AM

I have been using alky control with devils own screw in nozzles on my last two turbo setups. Never had an issue. The amount of power it makes is not clear to me. I never added meth and only meth. My tuner adjusts the whole tune when using meth and I have always added boost when adding meth.

shinysun · 01-23-2020, 09:44 AM

Can anyone recommand the location of nozzles for the spraying equally to each cylinders? I am planning to put 4~6 nozzles for it.

laynlo15 · 01-23-2020, 10:57 AM

Devilsown has a kit you can use and a couple guys with 2650 Maggies are spraying into the intercoolers thru the lid instead of the elbow. Mine are still in the elbow but I'm changing mine also to the lid. Gen6mike is using the same pump that comes with the Meth kits and it looks cool running into the lid.

shinysun · 01-23-2020, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

Devilsown has a kit you can use and a couple guys with 2650 Maggies are spraying into the intercoolers thru the lid instead of the elbow. Mine are still in the elbow but I'm changing mine also to the lid. Gen6mike is using the same pump that comes with the Meth kits and it looks cool running into the lid.

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01-23-2020, 07:51 AM	#1
MrcamaroZ28 Drives: 2015 Black Z28 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 89	Best alcohol injection What is the Best alcohol injection? I know I will need a tune to get the maximum performance but is it necessary to have it tuned? And how much HP can I gain with no tune verse with a tune. (2018 camaro SS 6speed, D1 Procharger)

01-23-2020, 09:15 AM	#3
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I have the AEM with 1-1000cc nozzle but have run 2 nozzles in the past. Yes you need a tune. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-23-2020, 09:28 AM	#4
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,787	Yep you need a tune. It will run rich if you don't. Meth has to be treated like additional fueling for it to work or your engine runs rich. DI motors don't like to run rich...so it's not like port injected stuff where you could use it for cooling only and run a little richer. The fuel system will need leaned out some. There is a fine line there...For a rough example, I know some will tune for .85 lambda on fuel system, then spray meth to get it back into the .82 range. This way if the meth fails it goes a little lean but doesn't nuke the engine. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

01-23-2020, 09:33 AM	#5
Choda Drives: Turbo 6.2 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Buffalo Posts: 702	I have been using alky control with devils own screw in nozzles on my last two turbo setups. Never had an issue. The amount of power it makes is not clear to me. I never added meth and only meth. My tuner adjusts the whole tune when using meth and I have always added boost when adding meth. __________________ 2016 Turbo Camaro SS - 800hp/900tq 9.7@146 2018 LTZ Z71 Redline Silverado - 381hp/420tq 13.8@100

01-23-2020, 10:57 AM	#7
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Devilsown has a kit you can use and a couple guys with 2650 Maggies are spraying into the intercoolers thru the lid instead of the elbow. Mine are still in the elbow but I'm changing mine also to the lid. Gen6mike is using the same pump that comes with the Meth kits and it looks cool running into the lid. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-23-2020, 08:23 AM	#2
Umbriel Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Bartlett, TN Posts: 1,121	I used Alky Control on my 4th gen, not planning on running meth on this car.

01-23-2020, 09:44 AM	#6
shinysun Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Korea Posts: 417	Can anyone recommand the location of nozzles for the spraying equally to each cylinders? I am planning to put 4~6 nozzles for it.

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