15% Ethanol, Your Camaro, Should We Care?

[SS 310H55A]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

This whole idea of “my car wont survive 15% ethanol!” is really pathetic. Seals are not rated for xx.xx% of alcohol to my knowledge. They are rated to survive alcohol period.

What do we do to make our cars flex fuel capable? Add a sensor and tell the ecu to use it to read the alcohol % in the fuel. We dont change seals or gaskets or fuel lines….

Not entirely true. Seals and rubber do not like ethanol. I’ve had to reseal the gas tank in my ‘65 Mustang more times than I care for because the ethanol content keeps destroying my seals. I finally discovered permatex fuel resistant gasket dressing that seals against fuel and ethanol specifically.

[FasNuf]

If your car or truck can run E15 it should say so on the fuel cap and in the manual.
An example is my 2019 Tacoma. It's good up to E15.

[SS_Dave]

When you want to promote electric, you hit the fuel of internal combustion. Pretty clear cut.

[Scotavo]

Originally Posted by SS_Dave

When you want to promote electric, you hit the fuel of internal combustion. Pretty clear cut.

True. Your current bunch would ban the IC engine if they could. Greens=Authoritarians.

[WVracer]

The e15 law has been in effect for a while. Only certain gas stations will sell it. All the bill is trying to do is extend the time gas stations are allowed to sell it. They usually stop selling it in the summer but they want to allow them to continue selling to help people with the prices. The funny thing is, the 10 cents you save on the gallon won’t make a difference overall because your fuel mileage will drop. It will basically even out. They trying to help the current administrations current image. Your 91 and 93 with still be available with 10 percent ethanol.

[Moto-Mojo]

Good stuff. I really did start this thread with the hope I might learn more than what I’ve read to date.

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Good stuff. I really did start this thread with the hope I might learn more than what I’ve read to date.

Problem is the info gleaned here is from the same place you got it. Google. Take it with a grain of salt.

[StingrayblueSS]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Welp, Enviro-Greta is not going to be happy with the increase in ethanol coming to our gasoline. No one will be happy with lower fuel mileage but more importantly...

> Should we be concerned about possible damage to our engines?

> If you're tuned, should you consider altering it to accommodate the new 15% 'summer blend?'

> Is there any validity to these ethanol engine concerns at all?

> Should we invest in corn futures?

https://cspdailynews.com/amp/fuels/3...sion-about-e15
E15 already exists its called unleaded 88. They're not adding 5% to all fuel types.

[Moto-Mojo]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

Problem is the info gleaned here is from the same place you got it. Google. Take it with a grain of salt.

I would hope people’s real world, actually experience would trump the ‘opinion checkers’ on the internet. But hell, my government would never lie to me, would they? (insert LOL here)

[Scotavo]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

But hell, my government would never lie to me, would they? (insert LOL here)

All 195 national governments lie often. Most lie all the time.

[Royal Tiger]

I’m running my car exclusively on E85 now. My CR-V I try and use the ethanol free pump at Wawa if I can.

[CamaroCracka]

Here e85 has gone up to as much as 93 at BJs, so no benefit unless you need the octane.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

Here e85 has gone up to as much as 93 at BJs, so no benefit unless you need the octane.

It’s a $1.50/gallon cheaper here plus I like the power and clean burning aspect.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

But you do change the injectors. We already have a high rate of injector problems, I look for this to create more. Bad for the customer, good for me.

I dont think you need to change the injectors if the car has bolt ons. Would it be safer? Absolutely, but i think you’d be fine. Not sure what injector issues you are talking about though, mine have been fine. Just make sure if you do change injectors that you get good reliable data otherwise it’ll run like crap

Originally Posted by SS 310H55A

Not entirely true. Seals and rubber do not like ethanol. I’ve had to reseal the gas tank in my ‘65 Mustang more times than I care for because the ethanol content keeps destroying my seals. I finally discovered permatex fuel resistant gasket dressing that seals against fuel and ethanol specifically.

I agree, rubber doesnt like alcohol. But did you try to find seals that can handle alcohol exposure or did you buy original Ford/reproduction gaskets?