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LowRider · 03-15-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 3whiterag

No, the COPO or the ZL1 was the baddest thing you could have in 1969 and the SS was not a midclass Camaro, it was the performance option trim package and you could get any engine size you wanted in that configuration, hence it was considered the top of the line trim package. You are right about the Z28 later, it was a name plate only and in the fourth gen, what did they make SS's out of? That is right, Z28's. So that tells me that the SS is the top model and if all the other cars have a top model of an SS with A high performance engine, then why would they confuse the issue by having an SS model in the Camaro that was not the top dog? I guess we will have to wait and see!

Man I can't agree with you more. I know this car is real because like you said with the SS package you could order any engine that they offered. And I have saw the papers to the car.

Casull · 03-16-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LowRider

Man I can't agree with you more. I know this car is real because like you said with the SS package you could order any engine that they offered. And I have saw the papers to the car.

They should go back old school and make the SS a performance package instead of a stand alone designation. Kind of like the Z51 Corvette package.

Cdn Camaroman · 03-17-2007, 06:05 AM

Please allow me to solve the debate and just bring back........IROC. The coolest name that got so much good exposure (i.e. eddie murpy,raw.... SNL with the classic "beatin o the week" episode....some girl song that mention it,the sopraons episode with the accident in front of the boucher shop...)there is no debate....I want to order it as an IROC and since the series currently has no sponsor,why not?...some parts of this post are not in complete seriousness

OverAnxious · 03-18-2007, 02:17 PM

God No.

3whiterag · 03-18-2007, 02:29 PM

Woah!! That has to hurt!

IROC'em · 03-20-2007, 07:16 PM

Dont hate on the IROC!

Moosen75 · 03-21-2007, 11:44 PM

i will say no to a new iroc. but moose did have a point about either way its gonna be a camaro which is true....

EllwynX · 03-22-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Moosen75

i will say no to a new iroc. but moose did have a point about either way its gonna be a camaro which is true....

I was never fond of the nomenclature 'IROC'. It's not Camaro specific like Z28.

After Camaro lost the IROC name it went to the Dodge Daytona for goodness sake!

IROC = Generic

SilverTurtle · 03-22-2007, 10:23 PM

let me clarify this for everyone:

the Yenko was a COPO car... the "special 396" that was in it came from the factory... it was actually a 427... this happened because Vince Piggins and Don Yenko were good buddies and they found a way to get around the system.

the Z28 was a race car... the 302cid engine was there because they had a 5.0L restriction in the Trans Am racing series... I can promise you, without hesitation or reservation, that a 1969 Z28 would not only keep up with every single car in the Camaro lineup, but it even gave the ZL1 a run for its money.

the SS was the straight line performer and it was, with some tweaking, the fastest straight line model you could get... the SS396 cars could be rockets but when you had to turn, you were going to get yourself passed by a Z28.

I, for one, think that the Z28 should be the top dog... I think if we're going to start over again, lets get back to basics... let the Z28 go racing, the SS be the straight line performer, make an RS option offered on the SS and base models and make a V8 model like the B4C so folks who want to have the power of the V8 but dont need the upscale options of the SS can have the car they're looking for.

and if there is a number's matching SS427 first gen Camaro out there, then I want to see the build sheet and COPO numbers... until that is posted, I'm calling

OverAnxious · 03-23-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EllwynX

I was never fond of the nomenclature 'IROC'. It's not Camaro specific like Z28.

After Camaro lost the IROC name it went to the Dodge Daytona for goodness sake!

IROC = Generic

??

IROC was never about any Camaro - it was for the 'International Race Of Champions' - Dodge took over sponsorship in 1990, simple as that

Casull · 03-23-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OverAnxious

??

IROC was never about any Camaro - it was for the 'International Race Of Champions' - Dodge took over sponsorship in 1990, simple as that

I don't think that was the point Ellwynx was trying to make. I think it more that he prefers Z28 because it is Camaro specific.... I dunno

OverAnxious · 03-23-2007, 10:13 AM

Could be

EllwynX · 03-23-2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casull

I don't think that was the point Ellwynx was trying to make. I think it more that he prefers Z28 because it is Camaro specific.... I dunno

You get the Kewpie Doll.

That was exactly my point.

IROC doesn't = Camaro. IROC = any car that sponsors... So let's leave IROC in the past.

*TAG UR IT* · 04-01-2007, 11:18 PM

Of the two, which would you want to be known as the "top dog" Camaro? Would you want the SS to be the higher end, or the Z28?

View Poll Results: Which do you want known as THE top Camaro?
Z28	152	45.37%
SS	183	54.63%
Voters: 335. You may not vote on this poll

03-17-2007, 06:05 AM	#31
Cdn Camaroman Drives: 4 Camaros Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 79 View My Garage	Please allow me to solve the debate and just bring back........IROC. The coolest name that got so much good exposure (i.e. eddie murpy,raw.... SNL with the classic "beatin o the week" episode....some girl song that mention it,the sopraons episode with the accident in front of the boucher shop...)there is no debate....I want to order it as an IROC and since the series currently has no sponsor,why not?...some parts of this post are not in complete seriousness __________________ 1969 Z/28 clone 1976 Bumblebee 1992 IROC convertible 1996 Z28 SS # 004

03-18-2007, 02:17 PM	#32
OverAnxious Drives: 1967 RS/SS L78 Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 799	God No. __________________ Joe Over Anxious - 1967 Camaro RS/SS L78 5th Gen Camaro BLOG // My eBay auctions

03-18-2007, 02:29 PM	#33
3whiterag GM Powertrain Retired Drives: 67SS350, 87 IROC L98, 96SS ver Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 352	Woah!! That has to hurt! __________________ http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...g/100_1224.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...g/100_1227.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...g/100_1230.jpg

03-22-2007, 10:23 PM	#37
SilverTurtle Reality Check Specialist Drives: '02 Z28, 2012 45th SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 1,730	let me clarify this for everyone: the Yenko was a COPO car... the "special 396" that was in it came from the factory... it was actually a 427... this happened because Vince Piggins and Don Yenko were good buddies and they found a way to get around the system. the Z28 was a race car... the 302cid engine was there because they had a 5.0L restriction in the Trans Am racing series... I can promise you, without hesitation or reservation, that a 1969 Z28 would not only keep up with every single car in the Camaro lineup, but it even gave the ZL1 a run for its money. the SS was the straight line performer and it was, with some tweaking, the fastest straight line model you could get... the SS396 cars could be rockets but when you had to turn, you were going to get yourself passed by a Z28. I, for one, think that the Z28 should be the top dog... I think if we're going to start over again, lets get back to basics... let the Z28 go racing, the SS be the straight line performer, make an RS option offered on the SS and base models and make a V8 model like the B4C so folks who want to have the power of the V8 but dont need the upscale options of the SS can have the car they're looking for. and if there is a number's matching SS427 first gen Camaro out there, then I want to see the build sheet and COPO numbers... until that is posted, I'm calling __________________ got tequila? Last edited by SilverTurtle; 03-22-2007 at 10:25 PM. Reason: throwing the BS flag

03-20-2007, 07:16 PM	#34
IROC'em Drives: Chevy 1500 5.7L Vortec Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FL, Go gators! Posts: 172	Dont hate on the IROC!

03-21-2007, 11:44 PM	#35
Moosen75 Drives: Junk til 2008 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 173	i will say no to a new iroc. but moose did have a point about either way its gonna be a camaro which is true....

03-23-2007, 10:13 AM	#40
OverAnxious Drives: 1967 RS/SS L78 Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 799	Could be __________________ Joe Over Anxious - 1967 Camaro RS/SS L78 5th Gen Camaro BLOG // My eBay auctions

04-01-2007, 11:18 PM	#42
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Z28 Higher than SS? Of the two, which would you want to be known as the "top dog" Camaro? Would you want the SS to be the higher end, or the Z28?

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