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[InFiD3ViL]

Originally Posted by Aqua Blue RS/SS

I got to say it’s pretty damn nice to be surrounded but such competence, that’s one great thing about this board, most of us all seem to be on the same page, you don’t see that online that much these days.

Damn straight!

I know not all of us agree on everything political here, but we do at least all share one thing in common - the love for this car. That helps to make their insanity almost forgivable.

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Unfortunately the liberal ass state governments we (not me) keep electing are going to mandate the combustion engine out of existence!

It will never happen, but part of the political problem that you're raising is that in order for us to ensure combustion engines on the road, if I have to vote for some election-denying, women-hating fascist, then no thanks.


I get the push back on companies to reduce emissions, but at the end of the day, the manufacturer is going to chase the dollar, not the regulation. The main reason that car manufacturers are moving towards EV is because the demand for them is increasing exponentially, not because Uncle Sam is bending their arm. Let the EV market dry up and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[NOT A 45]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

It will never happen, but part of the political problem that you're raising is that in order for us to ensure combustion engines on the road, if I have to vote for some election-denying, women-hating fascist, then no thanks.


I get the push back on companies to reduce emissions, but at the end of the day, the manufacturer is going to chase the dollar, not the regulation. The main reason that car manufacturers are moving towards EV is because the demand for them is increasing exponentially, not because Uncle Sam is bending their arm. Let the EV market dry up and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Where does just about every car company chase the dollar? The same state that has banned new gasoline powered cars in 2035. They are currently considering legislation to ban diesel truck sales as well. Eventually, every other liberal state will do likewise. Don't believe me? See which states have adopted California's emission standards and which have not!

I agree there is some market demand for electric vehicles, however the demise of the combustion engine will be caused by government, not the consumer!

[0stones0]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

It will never happen, but part of the political problem that you're raising is that in order for us to ensure combustion engines on the road, if I have to vote for some election-denying, women-hating fascist, then no thanks.


I get the push back on companies to reduce emissions, but at the end of the day, the manufacturer is going to chase the dollar, not the regulation. The main reason that car manufacturers are moving towards EV is because the demand for them is increasing exponentially, not because Uncle Sam is bending their arm. Let the EV market dry up and you'll see what I'm talking about.

That statement alone says volumes. I don’t agree.

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Where does just about every car company chase the dollar?

Where the profit is. Ask any CFO in the private sector, and barring constraints made by the company core values and statutory laws, every single business makes decisions based on profit.


Yes, I know many a CFO/CEO in both the medical and private industries, so I'm not talking out of my butt. The reason why car manufacturers are going so heavy into the EV market is due to profit margins and forecasting.

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by 0stones0

That statement alone says volumes. I don’t agree.

Yes, I get that sentiment from this forum. This is the same group that thinks the president sets the gas prices. Finance and economy is not our strong suit here.


Granted, I can easily see how many would draw this conclusion given the heavy-handed approach of our government, but don't fool yourselves for one second. If manufacturers increased their profits with combustion vehicles, you better believe things would look a lot different.

[Moto-Mojo]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

Without getting too political, something I find interesting is that people are looking at falling gas prices and forgetting the pain inflicted by political policies since 1/1/21. What they aren't looking at is that diesel is still about $4.50 or worse. Diesel moves the world. From pickup trucks moving heavy equipment for job sites, semi trucks brining us our goods, trains brining us long range goods and energy sources (coal baby!), farm equipment, mining equipment, the list goes on. The push to eliminate internal combustion engines so quickly will result in further inflation, and substantially disappointed consumers.

Falling gas prices are a fantasy in CA. I paid $6.46 for MID grade yesterday. This is a full $3 over nat’l average. A total ripoff of Californians. Don’t fall for pretty boy, Gavin Newsom, when he runs for president, or you all will pay $7.00+ and be FORCED to relinquish your Camaro. You have been warned!

[NOT A 45]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

Where the profit is. Ask any CFO in the private sector, and barring constraints made by the company core values and statutory laws, every single business makes decisions based on profit.


Yes, I know many a CFO/CEO in both the medical and private industries, so I'm not talking out of my butt. The reason why car manufacturers are going so heavy into the EV market is due to profit margins and forecasting.

If that were the case, the math sure doesn't add up.......

The cost in raw materials needed to produce an EV is now 125% more than the raw material cost of a comparable internal combustion engine vehicle, according to AlixPartners.

[redcoats1976]

OMG...hes gonna run for president? one problem EVs will face is that the cost of electricity will increase in order to fund needed infrastructure improvements.my bill here in central florida has increased about 40% just due to the unavailabilty of russian natural gas with no improvement to infrastucture at all.and we are all aware that in california the grid is already overstressed.switching to EVs en masse should make things much better there...right? i refuse to vote for some left wing,car hating fascist who probably owns a multimillion dollar beach mansion.

[Moto-Mojo]

“OMG...hes gonna run for president?” People in his inner circle seem to think it’s a foregone conclusion.

[NOT A 45]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

If manufacturers increased their profits with combustion vehicles, you better believe things would look a lot different.

Except in California.....correct?

[Moto-Mojo]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Except in California.....correct?

Right. I’d say he/we are committed to a total green agenda. The Big 3 already make cars based on our CARB requirements - even though they don’t have to. What’s worse than one California? FIFTY CALIFORNIA’S!

[NOT A 45]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Right. I’d say he/we are committed to a total green agenda. The Big 3 already make cars based on our CARB requirements - even though they don’t have to. What’s worse than one California? FIFTY CALIFORNIA’S!

Yep, they're so worried about being "green" they've shut down all but 1 nuclear power station......totally green with exception of the waste! Once they replace the 17,765,625 combustion powered vehicles with ev's, exactly what's the plan to do with all those batteries when they need replaced? You can't just throw them in the landfill!

[Moto-Mojo]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Yep, they're so worried about being "green" they've shut down all but 1 nuclear power station......totally green with exception of the waste! Once they replace the 17,765,625 combustion powered vehicles with ev's, exactly what's the plan to do with all those batteries when they need replaced? You can't just throw them in the landfill!

Please, let’s not bring logic, reason and foresight into this ‘feel good’ green agenda discussion.