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Old 01-22-2020, 07:35 AM   #85
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That's it! No need to remove the radio! Stop telling this man to remove the
radio!

I have given complete instructions, using a PDF, so there's no confusion,
and no need to keep repeating it.


The HVAC panel IS NOT the radio! It controls the radio and HVAC, but it IS NOT
the radio.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:35 PM   #86
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Thanks guys, think I'll take a look at this before it comes out this spring.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:53 PM   #87
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Since I hardly ever use the heat function on the temperature control knob, I wonder if there's a way to gut or modify the inside of the actuator motor to have it permanently set on the cold setting? If you did this though, you'd probably want to buy another "working" actuator so you can switch them out if you ever needed heat.

For this to work, you take the original actuator, or the new one (doesn't matter), and take it apart and permanently fix it internally on the cold setting. That way, the actuator motor is not turning against the blend door causing the torque stress on the hex side fitting which breaks the plastic on the blend door.

Unless the control module has a feedback loop in the CanBus system that would make this impossible, I'm thinking this could be another option to pulling the HVAC fuse or placing an inline power cut out switch on the actuator control circuit. It's a brute force way, but sometimes that works just as good.

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Old 01-22-2020, 02:05 PM   #88
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Ive pulled and installed many dashboards out of Ford, GM and Chrysler vehicles in a manufacturer plant environment. They are all generally the same with some minor differences. Disassembling the dash in pieces is the wrong way to do it. It comes out as an assembly, the exact same way the plant installs it. If you know what your doing, it comes out fairly easy, WITH the bar and not removing the windshield (idk who the **** come up with that idea). The assembly plant does not assemble dash pieces in the car. There is no need to remove the dash pad, the radio or even the glove box. Think dash assembly, not dash pieces.
You are only partially correct. In the case of 5th gen Camaro, the factory assembly process places and secures the dash assembly BEFORE the windshield is installed. Thus, the windshield must be removed or the bolts cut down to remove the dash assembly.
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Old 01-22-2020, 04:51 PM   #89
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That's it! No need to remove the radio! Stop telling this man to remove the
radio!

I have given complete instructions, using a PDF, so there's no confusion,
and no need to keep repeating it.


The HVAC panel IS NOT the radio! It controls the radio and HVAC, but it IS NOT
the radio.
Eh I'm pretty sure they would understand what I meant by radio by the time they get to that point.

Also I think the car can be adjusted/programmed for the A/C settings, though it may still have the same problem. On my car I can definitely hear the blend door stressing if I put it on full cold, don't hear anything for the heat side. Maybe just the last 2 clicks that don't do anything but break the blend door
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:03 PM   #90
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That's it! No need to remove the radio! Stop telling this man to remove the
radio!

I have given complete instructions, using a PDF, so there's no confusion,
and no need to keep repeating it.


The HVAC panel IS NOT the radio! It controls the radio and HVAC, but it IS NOT
the radio.
I told him to do the exact same thing you did but without all the pictures.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:28 PM   #91
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I told him to do the exact same thing you did but without all the pictures.
That was yesterday at 7:32PM

I posted it Yesterday at 6:52PM
I also gave the link for the PDF that has all that information in it.

You repeated later, what I posted 40 minutes earlier.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:30 PM   #92
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Since I hardly ever use the heat function on the temperature control knob, I wonder if there's a way to gut or modify the inside of the actuator motor to have it permanently set on the cold setting? If you did this though, you'd probably want to buy another "working" actuator so you can switch them out if you ever needed heat.

For this to work, you take the original actuator, or the new one (doesn't matter), and take it apart and permanently fix it internally on the cold setting. That way, the actuator motor is not turning against the blend door causing the torque stress on the hex side fitting which breaks the plastic on the blend door.

Unless the control module has a feedback loop in the CanBus system that would make this impossible, I'm thinking this could be another option to pulling the HVAC fuse or placing an inline power cut out switch on the actuator control circuit. It's a brute force way, but sometimes that works just as good.

That's why I am thinking of setting a hard limit at the dial.

You can always splice in a switch, in the power lead to the actuator.
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Old 01-24-2020, 02:48 PM   #93
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Yep, brought it back.
I have been working steady and no time to get into the car for a look but i will tonight.

After watching the video i'm wondering if a fella were to leave the actuator screws out wouldn't that be enough to keep the actuator from over stressing the door hinge?
Or would it lose position?
If it doesn't lose position i would add a non binding strap to it to keep from working itself out/off.
Just bouncing an idea around.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:50 PM   #94
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My blend door is starting to make crunching sound when you start or shut off the car.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:00 PM   #95
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i have tried to help a few people with this. that video shows that you can cut off the bottom of the long bolts and that allows you to remove them with the windshield in the car i have been there and done it works like a charm i used a air saw not a grinder. youtube can be helpful or hurt.
i didn't mean to start a argument with GR8one so this is my last post on the subject from here out it will be my little secret.
Thank you for all the useful information. I own a 2014 convertible and have ZERO problems, however; if I ever had a problem with the blend door your only a few hours away! Again, thank you. Larry
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Old 02-01-2020, 04:37 PM   #96
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Anyone ever replace theirs, only to have it break a second time?
I'm in this spot right now. Had it replaced 3 years ago Dealer gives a 2 year warranty go figure. I'm looking to just do it myself, got the replacement part off amazon for $15 dealer wanted $2500 for the work, and local Mechanic shop wanted $1800.
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Old 02-01-2020, 06:50 PM   #97
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I'm in this spot right now. Had it replaced 3 years ago Dealer gives a 2 year warranty go figure. I'm looking to just do it myself, got the replacement part off amazon for $15 dealer wanted $2500 for the work, and local Mechanic shop wanted $1800.
I have this issue as well. I wonder if anyone has attempted this from the passenger side?
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Old 02-02-2020, 07:01 AM   #98
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i have tried to help a few people with this. that video shows that you can cut off the bottom of the long bolts and that allows you to remove them with the windshield in the car i have been there and done it works like a charm i used a air saw not a grinder. youtube can be helpful or hurt.
i didn't mean to start a argument with GR8one so this is my last post on the subject from here out it will be my little secret.
Just curious that if you had to replace just the blend door would you take the dash out approach or the blend door hack?
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