No Gas for New York

[AZIROC]

Yet people keep voting for them. Weird.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117

Add this to long list of reasons to GTFO of New York.

Electric vehicles and the marketing that has been used trick people into buying them is one of the biggest scams ever.

No, they actually work, I've seen them myself.

[Village Idiot]

PA, NJ, MA probably won't be far behind. I know PA was talking about it a couple months ago, but nothing mandated. Whole Northeast is a shithole, can't wait to GTFO.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

PA, NJ, MA probably won't be far behind. I know PA was talking about it a couple months ago, but nothing mandated. Whole Northeast is a shithole, can't wait to GTFO.

What many used to say to me is Murphy was simply a delayed version of Cuomo, whatever came down on the Hudson, he would just do and then some.

[pauly1119]

Florida is full! They just posted the sign on I95

[10mm]

Originally Posted by pauly1119

Florida is full! They just posted the sign on I95

Florida sucks, too many guns, bugs, snakes and swamps.
Terrible place to live..

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by 10mm

Florida sucks, too many guns, bugs, snakes and swamps.
Terrible place to live..

I bet Oh, and you forgot to mention those DEADLY gators

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

I read it. It is short (as these things go).

My summary:
1) Here's the goal.
2) All state agencies are hereby tasked with evaluating its feasibility.

Let me know if I missed something.
I'm not a lawyer or a politician!

You read it perfectly. It is a goal, not a law. Executive branch at state or federal level does not make laws. That is the job of the Legislative branch. FWIW, every immigrant who wants to become a US citizen has to learn that the Legislative Branch makes law, the Executive Branch approves (or vetoes) law, the Judiciary Branch interprets law.

Case in point…the original California ZEV Mandate stated that by 2003, 10% of cars sold in California had to be zero emissions. In Q1 2021, 18 years after the timing for the original “mandate” the number of zero emissions cars sold in California just eked past 10% for the very first time (thanks Tesla). So either the original mandate was NOT a law, or the law has been broken every year for the past 18 years. It was not a law. But it led to actual law that was a lot more realistic and achievable. History is repeating.

California and New York are not alone. Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Washington, Oregon, and Hawaii also have set 2035 as a target year to ban sales of new vehicles with ICE. That’s about 1/5 of the US by state count and closer to 1/3 of annual new vehicles sales. And more are coming.

This is a chart I'll be using at a panel discussion I'll be speaking at at Motor Bella.

[kropscamaro16]

same shit is happening in california also thanks to you know who...


biden owns stock in alot of electric vehicle companies and batterys so it all makes sense

[Red Chief]

Originally Posted by AZIROC

Yet people keep voting for them. Weird.

Yeah there's never a shortage of Stupid.

[spireland]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

You think gas is expensive now. Wait until 2035

Everyone is freaking out about these EV only / ICE sale bans.

That's not the problem for enthusiasts. ICE vehicles will be around for most of our lives.

The problem is going to be fuel. When the demand goes down, economies of scale are lost and gas will become prohibitively expensive.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Nilly Welson

A lot of this stupid ass backward sh!t will be reversed once these fools are removed from office.

Reversed - most probably not

Revised - I would say likely. Getting past the safety, technological feasibility, and I think particularly cost-effectiveness hurdles aren't things that can be commanded to happen on any schedule.


Norm

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by spireland

Everyone is freaking out about these EV only / ICE sale bans.

That's not the problem for enthusiasts. ICE vehicles will be around for most of our lives.

The problem is going to be fuel. When the demand goes down, economies of scale are lost and gas will become prohibitively expensive.

Bootstraps. Just work harder.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by JKSully

My main concern is that battery technology is not where it would be if "big oil money" hadn't been allowed to suppress research into alternate energy for decades.

I don't think "big oil" had much to do with battery research specifically. I sure can't see their influence having extended down to discouraging battery research for consumer electronics (phones and tablets in particular) or cordless tools.


Norm