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OHIOSS · 03-04-2015, 06:15 PM

I have an R6P (pre-production) 2SS/RS/M6 and I know there wasn't a lot of these made. I was curious if anyone had a problem selling their R6P because of the no HUD and no rear sensors? If you traded your R6P did the dealer even ask about it?

Since R6P cars are pretty rare and they aren't making any more of them I had hoped/expected they would demand a premium price but I haven't heard that. Contrary I'm wondering if an R6P could hinder your ability to sell or trade in your Camaro?

Russ

v6sonoma · 03-04-2015, 06:20 PM

It will cost the same as a non R6P 2010 in similar condition with similar options. R6P really only matters to the ones that ordered them. It's a nice tip of the hat from Chevy, but ultimately it's not like it's an original 69 COPO. People don't see the value.

Jamie Mac · 03-04-2015, 08:23 PM

Honestly, it is unlikely anyone buying a 6 year old car will care that you ordered the car early. Where is the value in that for them? Not trying to be harsh, just realistic.

OHIOSS · 03-04-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

Honestly, it is unlikely anyone buying a 6 year old car will care that you ordered the car early. Where is the value in that for them? Not trying to be harsh, just realistic.

Only because it's much more rare and they are different. I don't plan on ever selling the car anyway. I was just curious if there was any difference in the market for R6P cars, good or bad.

The guy that did the tune on my car was very surprised how much more HP my Camaro had than any of the other SS's that he did tunes on. The only performance mod I have is a CAI. No supercharger, no headers or anything else. My SS was @ 418RWHP, he told me every one that he had dyno'ed was between 335RWHP - 365RWHP. The only difference that I could think of was because mine is an R6P and perhaps GM made a change when they put the cars into production and it reduced the HP? Mine was the only R6P that he had dyno'ed.

Russ

Mean Green Z28 · 03-04-2015, 09:33 PM

Mine's an early example too but I bought it used. Is that code in the build sticker in the trunk?

Chevy_cowboy · 03-04-2015, 09:49 PM

I think the only people that are going to care about R6P are the original owners, and maybe collectors 25 years from now. Dealers especially won't care or probably even know what it means.

Destructo09 · 03-04-2015, 10:02 PM

Wait maybe 30+ years and they might bring a premium. Almost no late model cars ever bring much of a premium for rare or unusual options. There's just not really any collectible market for late model cars.

OHIOSS · 03-05-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Destructo09

Wait maybe 30+ years and they might bring a premium. Almost no late model cars ever bring much of a premium for rare or unusual options. There's just not really any collectible market for late model cars.

I tend to agree with you. If I am lucky enough to live 30 more years maybe I will be willing to sell it then.

JR 1 · 03-05-2015, 02:38 PM

It shouldn't affect resale value in the least right now. Outside of serious Camaro enthusiasts nobody knows what R6P means or that it even exists. Maybe in a few decades Barett Jackson will educate the masses, but until then...

talwell · 03-07-2015, 10:24 AM

Book value would be the same on an R6P as it would any other 2010. In all honesty, most people buying would have no idea what the R6P is and would not notice not having the backup sensors unless you pointed it out. As for the HUD, that is a 2011 and later item so all 2010 would be lacking the HUD.

Value wise, the R6P cars would not see any higher value than any other car at this time and most likely any time in the future as it was only meant to designate an early order car. I owned a pre-production 2010 Camaro that was used as a festival car for both the Indy 500 and Brickyard 500 by the George family. I was able to get a premium for the car when I sold it because of the combination of special history the car had. Being a pre-production car has not proven to add more value on resale so I would doubt the R6P would either.

ChrisBlair · 03-07-2015, 01:35 PM

If there's no advantage, there's no value.

Want to know how much "more value" my "early 1970" Buick has? Oh, it's very clearly an "early 1970". It has the pointed lenses and clear overflow tank top and sequence number and armrest pad bases, etc. Regular production 1970 models of the same car are easy to spot to any Buick collector.

Care to guess the added value? Just about nothing. What it means is "car is an extra special pain in the ass to find the right parts for".

That car was made in 1969. That was 46 years ago. I keep waiting for collectors to throw money at me. 26 years and counting...Trust me here. Don't rely on your car being worth anything to anybody except you. Unless you've got an actual rarity and a good number of people care about it, it's a used car.

03-04-2015, 06:15 PM	#1
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Has anyone traded in or sold an R6P? I have an R6P (pre-production) 2SS/RS/M6 and I know there wasn't a lot of these made. I was curious if anyone had a problem selling their R6P because of the no HUD and no rear sensors? If you traded your R6P did the dealer even ask about it? Since R6P cars are pretty rare and they aren't making any more of them I had hoped/expected they would demand a premium price but I haven't heard that. Contrary I'm wondering if an R6P could hinder your ability to sell or trade in your Camaro? Russ

03-04-2015, 06:20 PM	#2
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	It will cost the same as a non R6P 2010 in similar condition with similar options. R6P really only matters to the ones that ordered them. It's a nice tip of the hat from Chevy, but ultimately it's not like it's an original 69 COPO. People don't see the value. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

03-04-2015, 08:23 PM	#3
Jamie Mac NCM-WINR Drives: 2010 SS/RS IOM 2014 2LT Stingray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,324	Honestly, it is unlikely anyone buying a 6 year old car will care that you ordered the car early. Where is the value in that for them? Not trying to be harsh, just realistic. __________________ also drives a heavily modified Jeep Wrangler. It has LED headlights and wheel weights blacked out with Plasti Dip. It's Baller.

03-04-2015, 09:33 PM	#5
Mean Green Z28 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 941 View My Garage	Mine's an early example too but I bought it used. Is that code in the build sticker in the trunk? __________________ 2010 2SS - CAI Intake, ADM Scoop, RotoFab Washer relo. LT Headers and off-road pipes, X-pipe, Muffler Deletes, ZL1 Spoiler, Technostalgia Tail-lights '98 T/A (Sold) - Forged 6.0ltr, MS3, P&P'd Heads/Valves, 90MM FAST/TB, Headers, 3" Y-pipe, 4" Mufflex Catback. Koni Adjustables w/GC coilovers (550/175), Strano Sway Bars '94 Z28 (Sold) ... LS1 swap (basically same setup as the T/A), TH350/3500 stall ... swapped it all into the T/A -- >> Some of my Projects My Fquick Page

03-04-2015, 09:49 PM	#6
Chevy_cowboy Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,287 View My Garage	I think the only people that are going to care about R6P are the original owners, and maybe collectors 25 years from now. Dealers especially won't care or probably even know what it means. __________________

03-04-2015, 10:02 PM	#7
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	Wait maybe 30+ years and they might bring a premium. Almost no late model cars ever bring much of a premium for rare or unusual options. There's just not really any collectible market for late model cars. __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

03-05-2015, 02:38 PM	#9
JR 1 Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lake Orion, MI Posts: 1,247	It shouldn't affect resale value in the least right now. Outside of serious Camaro enthusiasts nobody knows what R6P means or that it even exists. Maybe in a few decades Barett Jackson will educate the masses, but until then...

03-07-2015, 10:24 AM	#10
talwell Drives: 1969 LS1 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1,061	Book value would be the same on an R6P as it would any other 2010. In all honesty, most people buying would have no idea what the R6P is and would not notice not having the backup sensors unless you pointed it out. As for the HUD, that is a 2011 and later item so all 2010 would be lacking the HUD. Value wise, the R6P cars would not see any higher value than any other car at this time and most likely any time in the future as it was only meant to designate an early order car. I owned a pre-production 2010 Camaro that was used as a festival car for both the Indy 500 and Brickyard 500 by the George family. I was able to get a premium for the car when I sold it because of the combination of special history the car had. Being a pre-production car has not proven to add more value on resale so I would doubt the R6P would either.

03-07-2015, 01:35 PM	#11
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	If there's no advantage, there's no value. Want to know how much "more value" my "early 1970" Buick has? Oh, it's very clearly an "early 1970". It has the pointed lenses and clear overflow tank top and sequence number and armrest pad bases, etc. Regular production 1970 models of the same car are easy to spot to any Buick collector. Care to guess the added value? Just about nothing. What it means is "car is an extra special pain in the ass to find the right parts for". That car was made in 1969. That was 46 years ago. I keep waiting for collectors to throw money at me. 26 years and counting...Trust me here. Don't rely on your car being worth anything to anybody except you. Unless you've got an actual rarity and a good number of people care about it, it's a used car. __________________