FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 557

KMPrenger · 08-25-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

I am curious to see how the ZR2 stacks up to the competition. I am betting its closer to the Tremor option package than the Raptor

If they make it basically the same as the Colorado ZR2, it will have the suspension chops to take on the Raptor, which will put it in front of the Tremor, but just won't have the firepower. That's not all bad.

snizzle · 08-25-2021, 01:35 PM

I think this will be the "poor" man's Raptor. It will not approach TRX/Raptor"R" levels of absurdity and associated cost at launch. Think Colorado ZR2 formula with a 6.2L V8.

shaffe · 08-25-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

If they make it basically the same as the Colorado ZR2, it will have the suspension chops to take on the Raptor, which will put it in front of the Tremor, but just won't have the firepower. That's not all bad.

Basically slotting right inbetween. Could be a sweet spot in the off road truck market

FenwickHockey65 · 08-25-2021, 03:40 PM

Honestly I think that approach is worlds more practical.

snizzle · 08-26-2021, 06:20 AM

And if they offer the diesel, I bet the take rate would be higher than all other trims given the truck's mission.

KMPrenger · 08-26-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

And if they offer the diesel, I bet the take rate would be higher than all other trims given the truck's mission.

Yep...It needs the 6.2 or the diesel. People love their Colorado ZR2s. I think the Silverado ZR2 could also be popular. Why it wasn't done 2 or 3 years ago is beyond me.

Bhobbs · 08-26-2021, 09:14 AM

The issue is price. The ZR2 Colorado fit into a niche that wasn’t filled. Z71 to ZR2 is about $6 on the Chevy site. A 6.2 LT Trail Boss is 55k. Let’s say the price change is the same. That puts the Silverado ZR2 at 61k, at the minimum. Raptor MSRP is 64k, right now. The Silverado ZR2 is being brought into a market that’s been dominated by the Raptor for a long time now. It’s not the same situation. Those extra 3-4K get you a lot with the Raptor. Chevy better have something big to get people to not just go with the Raptor.

snizzle · 08-26-2021, 09:48 AM

I think there's more room than that in reality. I don't know if anyone actually finds a Raptor for 64K. I still think Chevy is going for the value proposition. It'll be a well sorted/engineered chassis with no new powertrain options.

RLHMARINES · 08-26-2021, 08:52 PM

New Gen 6 V8 family...

FenwickHockey65 · 08-27-2021, 08:23 AM

https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gm...27-canyon.html

Canyon AT4X OVRLANDX Concept.

FenwickHockey65 · 08-27-2021, 03:14 PM

https://www.gm-trucks.com/2023-gmc-c...th-new-wheels/

2023 Canyon

BluinSC · 08-28-2021, 06:41 PM

I'd like to have a Silverado but they are just so ugly.

If the refresh doesn't correct it I may go with Colorado/Canyon. Camaro and a Malibu don't cut it when you buy a house.

Or a last gen Denali.

KMPrenger · 08-29-2021, 10:57 AM

Looks like the 3.0 diesel is not available due to supply shortage. Dang that sucks.

https://tfltruck.com/2021/08/breakin...lier-shortage/

Martinjlm · 08-29-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Looks like the 3.0 diesel is not available due to supply shortage. Dang that sucks.

https://tfltruck.com/2021/08/breakin...lier-shortage/

Sounds temporary. Don’t know what a “DOSP Cycle” is but the wording implies that this is the case for the current DOSP Cycle, but not necessarily the next one.

08-25-2021, 01:35 PM	#7786
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,413	I think this will be the "poor" man's Raptor. It will not approach TRX/Raptor"R" levels of absurdity and associated cost at launch. Think Colorado ZR2 formula with a 6.2L V8. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

08-25-2021, 03:40 PM	#7788
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Honestly I think that approach is worlds more practical. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

08-26-2021, 06:20 AM	#7789
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,413	And if they offer the diesel, I bet the take rate would be higher than all other trims given the truck's mission. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

08-26-2021, 09:14 AM	#7791
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	The issue is price. The ZR2 Colorado fit into a niche that wasn’t filled. Z71 to ZR2 is about $6 on the Chevy site. A 6.2 LT Trail Boss is 55k. Let’s say the price change is the same. That puts the Silverado ZR2 at 61k, at the minimum. Raptor MSRP is 64k, right now. The Silverado ZR2 is being brought into a market that’s been dominated by the Raptor for a long time now. It’s not the same situation. Those extra 3-4K get you a lot with the Raptor. Chevy better have something big to get people to not just go with the Raptor. __________________

08-26-2021, 09:48 AM	#7792
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,413	I think there's more room than that in reality. I don't know if anyone actually finds a Raptor for 64K. I still think Chevy is going for the value proposition. It'll be a well sorted/engineered chassis with no new powertrain options. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

08-26-2021, 08:52 PM	#7793
RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,726	New Gen 6 V8 family... __________________ Swift....Silent....Deadly

08-27-2021, 08:23 AM	#7794
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gm...27-canyon.html Canyon AT4X OVRLANDX Concept. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

08-27-2021, 03:14 PM	#7795
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	https://www.gm-trucks.com/2023-gmc-c...th-new-wheels/ 2023 Canyon __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

08-28-2021, 06:41 PM	#7796
BluinSC Drives: BVM 1SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Columbia-Sumter- Florence, SC Posts: 460	I'd like to have a Silverado but they are just so ugly. If the refresh doesn't correct it I may go with Colorado/Canyon. Camaro and a Malibu don't cut it when you buy a house. Or a last gen Denali. Last edited by BluinSC; 08-28-2021 at 07:20 PM.

08-29-2021, 10:57 AM	#7797
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Looks like the 3.0 diesel is not available due to supply shortage. Dang that sucks. https://tfltruck.com/2021/08/breakin...lier-shortage/ __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)