Refreshed 2019 Camaro lineup spotted at GM Proving Grounds - Page 54

Thill444 · 03-01-2018, 08:24 AM

This is a complicated subject. Cars in general are not selling as well as they used to in favor of trucks and SUV's. Sportscars are even further hampered and I do agree that cost is part of the equation. It's getting to the point that a loaded Camaro and Mustang MSRP's for $50K+ and there just are not that many buyers who are willing to pay that for a car that does not offer the practicality, MPG's and ergonomics as other vehicles.

Both Chevy and Ford are chasing a declinging marketshare and with all the technology, safety, and performance the prices are getting out of control.

Depreciation is a killer too. For example I saved 29% off MSRP when I bought my 2016 C7 by buying one that was 11 months old used and had 2200 miles. Buying new has a penalty with these types of cars for sure the first couple years.

shaffe · 03-01-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brigante

This is a spy pic of the upcoming Blazer. Probably, Camaro will get the same screen.

I hope not, that looks awful. I hate the way some automakers have those screens. That looks like it was just tossed in at the last minute

F1FTY · 03-01-2018, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brigante

This is a spy pic of the upcoming Blazer. Probably, Camaro will get the same screen.

That chrome surround is going to cause a bad glare from sunlight....

samurai · 03-01-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brigante

This is a spy pic of the upcoming Blazer. Probably, Camaro will get the same screen.

Thanks for actually bringing up something about the refresh. It looks pretty legit that this screen will be used in the Camaro too. But I actually think the smaller one right now looks a bit less distracting

Bhobbs · 03-01-2018, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F1FTY

That chrome surround is going to cause a bad glare from sunlight....

It’s almost like the people that make these decisions don’t actually take them out in the real world. It all looks good on paper or the computer screen.

SuperSound · 03-01-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

It’s almost like the people that make these decisions don’t actually take them out in the real world. It all looks good on paper or the computer screen.

Kinda like the charging pad. Must have fit the engineers phone but he didn't stop to think about other phones.

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Stroked84 · 03-01-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brigante

This is a spy pic of the upcoming Blazer. Probably, Camaro will get the same screen.

Nice. I wonder what the the resolution and size of that display are. Would love a huge Tesla style display, but it wouldn't look right in that center stack. I'd be happy with a slightly larger, higher resolution display that's a bit more responsive.

Gen6_1Le · 03-01-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brigante

This is a spy pic of the upcoming Blazer. Probably, Camaro will get the same screen.

Very similar to the camaro , right down to the air vents at the center console . Looking forward to the new Blazer .

hotlap · 03-01-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Very similar to the camaro , right down to the air vents at the center console . Looking forward to the new Blazer .

I was thinking the same thing. The two air vents down low, the display and steering wheel co trolls, etc. Camaro DNA all over...

'01LS1 · 03-01-2018, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlap

I was thinking the same thing. The two air vents down low, the display and steering wheel co trolls, etc. Camaro DNA all over...

Guessing due to the higher belt line, lower roof unlike most in its class.

"We can tell that this crossover is getting an extra dose of style compared with Chevy's other, more conventional and practical models. The roof looks quite low, and the beltline pretty high, giving it a more aggressive, sporty stance."

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/28/...uv-spy-photos/

Cgocifer · 03-01-2018, 11:27 PM

How much you want to bet that thing is built on an alpha chassis? A sporty performance SUV like the Porsche Macan? Ooh, LT1 option?

Death of Camaro right there. Car makers are moving to more SUVs than cars these days because that's what sells. As others have said, no matter how awesome the car, more people are choosing Sport SUVs over a sports cars. :-(

samurai · 03-02-2018, 01:25 AM

You have to understand that some cars are not made for high sales numbers, but holding up the image of your company. Only a handful people will buy a Corvette ZR1 or ZL1 1LE. But they get you emotionally attached to the Company through it. And even when you can't afford the ZR1 or even a base Camaro or Corvette, or you need more space for practical reasons, you may end up buying a Chevrolet Sedan or SUV because of the Camaro or Corvette.

WhyUMad1LE · 03-02-2018, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cgocifer

How much you want to bet that thing is built on an alpha chassis? A sporty performance SUV like the Porsche Macan? Ooh, LT1 option?

Death of Camaro right there. Car makers are moving to more SUVs than cars these days because that's what sells. As others have said, no matter how awesome the car, more people are choosing Sport SUVs over a sports cars. :-(

$0. Look at how short the gap is between the front door and axle. It is definetely transverse layout.

IMadeYouReadThis · 03-02-2018, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by samurai

You have to understand that some cars are not made for high sales numbers, but holding up the image of your company. Only a handful people will buy a Corvette ZR1 or ZL1 1LE. But they get you emotionally attached to the Company through it. And even when you can't afford the ZR1 or even a base Camaro or Corvette, or you need more space for practical reasons, you may end up buying a Chevrolet Sedan or SUV because of the Camaro or Corvette.

+1

03-01-2018, 08:24 AM	#743
Thill444 Drives: 2020 SS1LE Shadow Gray Metallic Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: New England Posts: 294	This is a complicated subject. Cars in general are not selling as well as they used to in favor of trucks and SUV's. Sportscars are even further hampered and I do agree that cost is part of the equation. It's getting to the point that a loaded Camaro and Mustang MSRP's for $50K+ and there just are not that many buyers who are willing to pay that for a car that does not offer the practicality, MPG's and ergonomics as other vehicles. Both Chevy and Ford are chasing a declinging marketshare and with all the technology, safety, and performance the prices are getting out of control. Depreciation is a killer too. For example I saved 29% off MSRP when I bought my 2016 C7 by buying one that was 11 months old used and had 2200 miles. Buying new has a penalty with these types of cars for sure the first couple years.

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Cgocifer Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE, 2015 RAM Ecodiesel Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,451	How much you want to bet that thing is built on an alpha chassis? A sporty performance SUV like the Porsche Macan? Ooh, LT1 option? Death of Camaro right there. Car makers are moving to more SUVs than cars these days because that's what sells. As others have said, no matter how awesome the car, more people are choosing Sport SUVs over a sports cars. :-(

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samurai Drives: C8 Corvette Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 641	You have to understand that some cars are not made for high sales numbers, but holding up the image of your company. Only a handful people will buy a Corvette ZR1 or ZL1 1LE. But they get you emotionally attached to the Company through it. And even when you can't afford the ZR1 or even a base Camaro or Corvette, or you need more space for practical reasons, you may end up buying a Chevrolet Sedan or SUV because of the Camaro or Corvette.

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