Finally, I got Maggi 2650 for Lt1 - Page 2

KingLT1 · 09-22-2019, 10:51 AM

good numbers but I would of expected the power to carry out further then that.

laynlo15 · 09-22-2019, 01:21 PM

I'm just running mine out to 6800. Are you running the LT4 HPFP and injectors?

shinysun · 09-22-2019, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

I'm just running mine out to 6800. Are you running the LT4 HPFP and injectors?

Yap. I am just wondering about the limitation of the injection window.

No sign of bad things with that, but seems it is almost the boundary as it is over 6ms.

Joshinator99 · 09-22-2019, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinysun

Yap. I am just wondering about the limitation of the injection window.

No sign of bad things with that, but seems it is almost the boundary as it is over 6ms.

I would not do over 6ms in my humble opinion... How do your low side fuel pressure and high pressure rail numbers look?

shinysun · 09-22-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

I would not do over 6ms in my humble opinion... How do your low side fuel pressure and high pressure rail numbers look?

Yap, I also try not to. The rail numbers are quite stick with the desired , I think it is thanks to BAP so far.
I believe if I shot the meth and adjust the lamda, can reduce the injection time.

Joshinator99 · 09-22-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shinysun

Yap, I also try not to. The rail numbers are quite stick with the desired , I think it is thanks to BAP so far.
I believe if I shot the meth and adjust the lamda, can reduce the injection time.

Time to add Port Injection and spin that 2650 up!

Drsagacity · 09-22-2019, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Time to add Port Injection and spin that 2650 up!

Not sure I understand the infatuation with port injection when the 2650 hasn’t touched the end of fuel. Swap to e85 and this car is close to 1000whp.

Look at the recent posts about the port injection on the “other non-Maggie 2650”. Running port injection, with alky, with back seats pulled and running Cxx race fuel...the 2650 beat the 2300 Maggie time by what, .001s?

Seems to me the 2650 has a lot of room to go before anything like that makes any sense.

Then again, maybe I am thinking about this all wrong.

ramairroughneck · 09-22-2019, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Drsagacity

Not sure I understand the infatuation with port injection when the 2650 hasn’t touched the end of fuel. Swap to e85 and this car is close to 1000whp.

Look at the recent posts about the port injection on the “other non-Maggie 2650”. Running port injection, with alky, with back seats pulled and running Cxx race fuel...the 2650 beat the 2300 Maggie time by what, .001s?

Seems to me the 2650 has a lot of room to go before anything like that makes any sense.

Then again, maybe I am thinking about this all wrong.

I know you must be talking about 6GenMikes 416ci 2300R on E85/meth that just ran 9.0. Who is running port injection on an Edelbrock 2650 that is .001 faster? I only know of Talley. He runs c16/meth to get by with his LT4 fueling. No port injection. I think the mention of PFI is just to be able to see what the Maggie can do. It’s not a knock. Most every twin turbo or big Procharger runs it. Now that these bigger blowers are out it seems logical to run it to get the most out of them just the same. I could see the Maggie 2650 making some serious power when that upgrade comes out. Cordes is already making a thousand with aftermarket DI using the 2650R. I’m sure they will be surpassing the LT5s with PFI.

toohighpsi · 09-22-2019, 11:16 PM

6gen Mike is running the lingenfelter injectors - they are monsters so he can get by with E85 on the DI, his fuel limit will be the HP pump.
He's also pretty much at the limit of his 2300R, switching to a 2650R will probably net him another 100 RWHP with no other changes. I don't think we'll have to guess at this one, we'll probably find out pretty soon.

laynlo15 · 09-23-2019, 05:47 AM

I think we will.

SienarSystems · 09-23-2019, 03:50 PM

I’m willing to be the test case for the NW 112, big gulp and all the Lingenfelter fuel goodies...

*radz28* · 09-24-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SienarSystems

I’m willing to be the test case for the NW 112, big gulp and all the Lingenfelter fuel goodies...

It sounds like the stock short block may not be though, HAHAHA.

Any word yet on your set-up?

shinysun · 09-24-2019, 08:15 PM

As it approaches 900~1000 rwhp, I am concerning on head bolts. I am using ARP stud kit, but wondering if I need any other extra works?

laynlo15 · 09-24-2019, 09:55 PM

What mods are done the motor? That's a lot of rwhp.

09-22-2019, 10:51 AM	#15
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	good numbers but I would of expected the power to carry out further then that. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

09-22-2019, 01:21 PM	#16
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I'm just running mine out to 6800. Are you running the LT4 HPFP and injectors? __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff Last edited by laynlo15; 09-22-2019 at 04:28 PM.

09-23-2019, 05:47 AM	#24
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I think we will. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

09-24-2019, 09:55 PM	#28
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	What mods are done the motor? That's a lot of rwhp. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

09-22-2019, 11:16 PM	#23
toohighpsi Drives: 2015 C7 Z06 M7 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: So-Cal Posts: 654	6gen Mike is running the lingenfelter injectors - they are monsters so he can get by with E85 on the DI, his fuel limit will be the HP pump. He's also pretty much at the limit of his 2300R, switching to a 2650R will probably net him another 100 RWHP with no other changes. I don't think we'll have to guess at this one, we'll probably find out pretty soon.

09-23-2019, 03:50 PM	#25
SienarSystems Drives: ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: NYC (almost) Posts: 339	I’m willing to be the test case for the NW 112, big gulp and all the Lingenfelter fuel goodies...

09-24-2019, 08:15 PM	#27
shinysun Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Korea Posts: 417	As it approaches 900~1000 rwhp, I am concerning on head bolts. I am using ARP stud kit, but wondering if I need any other extra works?

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