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08-01-2019, 10:47 AM | #2830 |
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Good estimate, I can go along with that. I will be pleasantly surprised to see the CFTP tip in under 4K.
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08-01-2019, 01:25 PM | #2831 |
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I don't understand why Ford waits this long to release info on the car. It seems like they feel that the info will be disappointing so they let out a little at a time. The car will have 760HP.........but a 180MPH limiter.........and will cost $74K for the base and $94K for the CF version...........and will weigh...oh but before that here is pro-driver X who says the car feels lighter than what it really is although we still haven't told anyone what it really is. So what will it weigh?............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................The car will weigh...we interrupt you with news on the C8 Vette, the 2020 Vette will weigh 3400 pounds, have 495 HP, is expected to hit 60MPH under 3 seconds when outfitted with the Z51 package, and the base MSRP will be less than $60K. We releases all the interior and exterior color options. Back to your regularly scheduled program. Ford?....................................Oh right. Um. So the car will weigh........oh wait, here is another pro-driver who says that the GT500 outran a Ford GT and it dynoes in at 680-690 RWHP. Although we can't give you any details on the dyno run or the track run or who piloted both cars or if it ever actually happened at all, what we can tell you is that it came from a very reputable source. So back to the weight...............ooooo a squirrel.
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Even if the car does weigh in less than 4K, the fact that it is priced out of reach for most people is a drag. Think about it. The Base C8 will be over $14K cheaper than the Base GT500. If you can afford a fully loaded convertible GT or SS, then you can probably squeeze the change out of your couch to get yourself into a base C8. But what will it take for that buyer to get into a GT500? Even if you can afford the MSRP you still gotta pay markups. And that is if you can even get an allocation. And with the lack of timely info on the car...I see a lot of people switching over to GM after this entire fiasco. The GT500 was supposed to be the saving grace and it turned out to disappoint people. Well the HP and TQ had people pleased. But that so far is the only news that was satisfactory even if it took them 6 years to get this far. SMH
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New C8 videos, spottings, and details are coming out every day.
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My biggest gripe is how long it takes them to release info. Someone in the PR/marketing department really thinks they have people on the edge of their seat with this shit..all they're doing is having people lose interest. Nobody gives a shit what the 7.3 will make for a bunch of fleet vehicles. GM came in and stole their thunder from the GT500 with the C8, and released such awesome specs, that when they finally release the rest of the numbers for the GT500, nobody will care anyways because they will all be worse than the C8 and the upcoming variants with higher power.
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However, what i have seen with Ford is, when they release some numbers, and don't relesase others, it is clearly the case that the numbers they release are the good news, and the numbers they don't release in a timely fasion, are the bad news. To me, the delay in the weight numbers for the GT500 are because the won't be that good. It is especially telling that the Billy Johnson is spouting off about how light the car "feels". Again, that is a sign the actual numbers are going to be disapointing. If this car was going to surpise folks with a relatively lighter weight than resonable folks would expect, they would be shouting that number from the rooftops. Or at least saying that the actual weight will surprise folks. The fact that they are already making excuses about how light it "feels", is bad news in the weight department. |
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You can’t compare a limited built car to one of mass production. But even at 5000 GT500 being made, they will sell for under msrp within a year of when they hit the showrooms. The market is small when your over $75,000 for a sports car.
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As far as rebates and discounts on the C8, that is why we all can afford high performance cars from GM while Mustang guys are always stuck in base model GTs with a PP1 package added on. And that is why we pay less for better performing cars that are also more durable and better built. People paid ZL1 money for the non-R GT350. And they paid Z06 money for the R. And neither of those two cars could match the performance of cars that costed the same amount of money. Now here comes the GT500 at a high MSRP that most Mustang guys can't afford and the ones who can afford it are refusing to buy just to get outdone by the cheaper, discounted, rebated C8 that most of the SS owners here and all of the ZL1 owners can get into. I actually hope GM discounts it and offers rebates. That just means I'll get an awesome mid engine car even cheaper. |
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08-03-2019, 07:29 AM | #2840 |
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Oh and BTW...lots of dealerships ARE charging markups for the C8 and are getting that money without hesitation. And that is on a mass produced car.
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08-03-2019, 09:42 AM | #2841 |
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Look at all the media outlets. No one is talking about the GT500 except the Mustang forums and Mustang fans. Is it the highest horsepower car in the segment? No. Is it an affordable mid-engine with super car acceleration? No. Is it the most expensive option that we know almost nothing about? Yep.
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08-03-2019, 12:27 PM | #2842 |
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Alex Flores, a well known Lund Racing tuner claimed that he had it on good authority from someone close to the project that the base gt500 ran slower than a gt350r at a certain track. It'll be interesting how much faster the gt500 cf will be. Interesting food for though if the info is legit.
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