[CamaroSSStlfan]

I saw this old thread while on google searching for times. Did this forum user really pull off 3.6 seconds in a SS AND A8????


I know Car and Driver pulled off 3.9 seconds in a 2019 Camaro SS as well as the 2016 Camaro SS as well I recall too. Faster 1/4 mile I've see with the LT1 engine was 11.9 seconds I could find.


https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470402

[IneedAZ]

Don't forget these posted 0 to 60 times are on different roads(not a track), so you don't know how much of a road decline or incline the surface is. Sure the road may look flat but a slight decline should yield a faster time.

[Envious_Ivy1LE]

he says it's theoretically possible but never proves it or posts track times so I'm betting it didn't happen. C&D tested 5.2 for the V6 1LE (3-60 since it's before they had rollout) and the fastest I can currently get is 5.6 on all seasons using the"inaccurate" performance timer. usually I'm getting 5.7 - 6.0

I hopefully can shave something off of that once I put on the summers I have in the garage but I don't have the money to pay for unmounting and mounting twice if the 265/40 F 295/35 R rubs somewhere. I don't think it will but just want to be safe and plan ahead

[JSH]

Perhaps they rented the Bay City track in January, waited for a DA below zero and did an NHRA kinda of prep, etc.

[FarmerFran]

A bone stock SS is not hitting 3.6 to 60mph. I would only half believe it if I saw it. Maybe with a better stall but not on the stock stall.

And remember C&D does the 1' roll out which will change the 0-60 time.

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

A bone stock SS is not hitting 3.6 to 60mph. I would only half believe it if I saw it. Maybe with a better stall but not on the stock stall.

And remember C&D does the 1' roll out which will change the 0-60 time.

The Car and Drive one is quite believable because a lot of videos on youtube in the 2ss of amatures running 4.2ish 0-60 on the street and they're not pros.



Again, Car and Driver are professional drivers on a track. It's just not realistic for "most" drivers to pull off those times. Heck, Car and Driver was getting slow times when testing the Mustang out I recall in 2016.


I would think you'd be able to pull it off more consistently in the LT1 though simply due to the lighter weight.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

The Car and Drive one is quite believable because a lot of videos on youtube in the 2ss of amatures running 4.2ish 0-60 on the street and they're not pros.



Again, Car and Driver are professional drivers on a track. It's just not realistic for "most" drivers to pull off those times. Heck, Car and Driver was getting slow times when testing the Mustang out I recall in 2016.


I would think you'd be able to pull it off more consistently in the LT1 though simply due to the lighter weight.

Not disputing C&D claim, stating the they do not do 0 to 60. They do 1 foot roll out to 60. And the difference between 3.9 and 3.6 is not insignificant.

[Envious_Ivy1LE]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Not disputing C&D claim, stating the they do not do 0 to 60. They do 1 foot roll out to 60. And the difference between 3.9 and 3.6 is not insignificant.

prior to December 2019 they published 3 MPH to 60 MPH because they didn't have the tools to measure rollout. After December 2019 the figure should be posted for how much time the 1ft rollout took. They claim their reasoning is because most drag strips use 1ft rollout? can't verify never been

[KingLT1]

The performance page can be manipulated with tire spin and downward slope.

Many M6 times have been skewed by spinning the tire and grabbing second while still spinning and that will cause the wheel speed to go above 60mph even though the car is not actually moving 60mph. The triggers a quicker reported time then actual on the performance page because it's based off wheel speed instead of GPS.

Now the Performance page can still be used accurately if the end user is honest about it. Meaning uses a flat road, and no wheel spin but unfortunately you have those that need their egos fed on the internet.

So the only legit way to do any performance measuring is with a Dragy performance meter or similar.

Based on what I have seen reported on Dragys website, no stock M6 has been 3's without roll out factor.

[cmitchell17]

Is there any official confirmation that GM published these factory times with rollout or without it?

I know since Tesla has been around I am sure they have probably changed all their specs to include rollout.

I think a stock SS 8L90 could do a 3.6, defiantly including rollout, even on stock tires, but I think it would take drag strip prep.

With drag radials I think you could do 3.5 maybe even 3.4.

People don't understand how much potential energy is lost to wheelspin that could be put into a lower time/ET/trap speed. Its similar to how stating a peak or time independent horsepower figure doesn't mean much. There needs to be some kind of integrated/under the curve power assessment.

[Future1LEa10]

I did 3.6 in a stock challenger SCAT 392 A8 with only an MT et street R set of rears.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by cmitchell17

Is there any official confirmation that GM published these factory times with rollout or without it?

I know since Tesla has been around I am sure they have probably changed all their specs to include rollout.

I think a stock SS 8L90 could do a 3.6, defiantly including rollout, even on stock tires, but I think it would take drag strip prep.

With drag radials I think you could do 3.5 maybe even 3.4.

People don't understand how much potential energy is lost to wheelspin that could be put into a lower time/ET/trap speed. Its similar to how stating a peak or time independent horsepower figure doesn't mean much. There needs to be some kind of integrated/under the curve power assessment.

or how many halfshafts can go boom.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Future1LEa10

I did 3.6 in a stock challenger SCAT 392 A8 with only an MT et street R set of rears.

Unicorn

[Future1LEa10]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Unicorn

Maybe. But it would only do it with the DRs. The best before that was a 4.3 on the street tires. At the track it only ran 12.35@115 best bone stock on the same DRs so it wasnt some factory freak.