11-20-2017, 06:05 PM | #15 |
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Maybe Fiat Chrysler can buy it and run it into the ground.
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11-20-2017, 08:23 PM | #16 | |
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11-20-2017, 08:43 PM | #17 |
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Kool-aid for sale here...
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11-21-2017, 07:56 AM | #18 | |
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The longer they take to bring those affordable cars to market...the more EVs other manufacturers will produce to compete. Bolt won the North American car of the year award this year, after all...not the model III. Really hardcore Tesla fans remind me of early Apple fans...they're in love it so long as it's niche and "alternative". They idolize Musk like Apple fans idolized Steve Jobs. But once (if) it becomes mainstream, or once the idol steps down or is otherwise out of the picture, they won't be so gung-ho anymore. As I said earlier - I like what Tesla's doing. I really do, without them, Volt would have never happened, and every EV GM makes is delineated from that architecture. I like even more than Tesla is an American company. But I think they're living proof that the industry is so big it's very difficult to just "start" a car company, anymore. |
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11-21-2017, 09:38 AM | #19 |
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Tesla has already revolutionized the car industry. Everyone has reacted to his vehicles and he has already lasted much longer than many expected. I would be shocked if they completely fold. That being said I will also be shocked if he actually makes his production target with any sort of quality over the next few years. As others have mentioned Tesla already has significant quality issues with the expensive cars. Building a cheaper and higher volume model is only going to magnify those problems.
The apple comparison is on point. There are plenty of people who are who are in love with the brand and will put up with a lot to have a part of that. I think once the model 3s start making it into the hands of people who truly rely on their cars as their only form of transportation, some of the shine will wear off if the quality issues rear their ugly heads. We will see. Hopefully he values quality over the production goals. I don't think he can have both.
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Tesla will eventually be a battery manufacturer and that is about it.
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In other news...GM intends to sell EVs at a profit:
GM Has a Radical Plan for EVs: Actually Turn a Profit http://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-ra...y-turn-profit/
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Also whoever pointed out the Steve Jobs/Musk comparison is spot on. I have an old friend who is a total Apple Sheeple, who is also wowed and just blown away by whatever Musk says. |
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12-30-2017, 11:09 AM | #27 |
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Recent "news" about our favorite car company...lol...Looks like crunch time is getting closer....
https://www.dailybreeze.com/2017/12/...-break-year-2/ |
12-31-2017, 11:07 AM | #28 |
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But they announced the semi and new pickup truck.
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